tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-80497809006403301772024-03-14T01:38:39.231-07:00艾晓明工作室博客(4)艾晓明:女权学者、写作者、纪录片工作者。wawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17266556312717223286noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049780900640330177.post-30842975203825180252019-04-16T02:21:00.001-07:002019-04-16T02:21:23.303-07:00ANARKH或命运<div class="MsoNormal">
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">大火滚滚而起</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b>诗/翻拍照片:艾晓明</b><br />
<b>插图(版画、油画原创):胡杰</b><br />
<b>朗诵:老蝌蚪</b><br />
<b>配乐:风景</b><br />
<a href="https://m.ximalaya.com/share/sound/167865683?uid=85079144"><b>网站链接:喜马拉雅</b></a><br />
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又是人间四月<br />
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四月是女儿的 是你的<br />
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只属于你一个人<br />
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你在四月与灵山有约<br />
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你的花环一传十 十传百<br />
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四月有潇潇无尽的雨<br />
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在南方打湿一座又一座空城<br />
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四月有狂卷的黄沙和风暴<br />
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在青的海黑的戈壁<br />
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掀起父兄被掩埋时的被絮和白骨<br />
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四月老者去朝圣<br />
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走石头的台阶石头的坎<br />
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四月医者掩面而泣<br />
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僵立如铁 如铸 如尸<br />
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四月里如花的女儿<br />
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有谁听过你无言的啸叫<br />
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有谁看过你泣血的断喉<br />
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要再过半个世纪 或许一个世纪<br />
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我们才能列队走近你<br />
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四月是一间囚室<br />
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我们屏住呼吸<br />
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与无神的死对视<br />
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你是四月的新娘<br />
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披着母亲手缝的蓝花被<br />
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褴褛如剪纸<br />
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你像灰姑娘乘南瓜奔向初夜<br />
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把铁索的魔戒抛向王子<br />
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你雄辩滔滔 有笔如刀<br />
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毒太阳敌不过你一口唾沫<br />
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你的春宵假灵耦共暖<br />
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用经血绗缝相思<br />
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青丝寸断 每一寸都是歌中之歌<br />
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提一篮小桥流水<br />
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缠绵了海上愁城<br />
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四月里 我是若无其事的行人<br />
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在那个四方里弄 绕行窥视<br />
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想瞒天过海 穿墙而入<br />
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袭一镜风景 找你的窗户<br />
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我数在新岸的门前排队的人<br />
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数探监的妹妹 老态龙钟<br />
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刀 旋在母亲的心<br />
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数天上落下一纸白帆<br />
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载不动长夜陆沉<br />
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我在每一条街上看见疯狂的白昼<br />
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疯女人披头散发 捶胸顿足<br />
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我听见主妇们在市场的合唱<br />
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鳜鱼 要整条的 鲫鱼串汤<br />
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青鱼的蒸 总要白蒸 不要煎煮<br />
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再弄点鲞鱼下饭<br />
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月饼 年糕 馄饨 水饺 春卷 锅贴<br />
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两面黄的炒面 粽子 团子 粢饭糕 臭豆腐干<br />
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炖一锅牛肉<br />
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煨一锅羊肉<br />
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煮一只猪头<br />
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猪尾巴——猪头!<br />
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猪尾巴?——猪头!<br />
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猪尾巴!——猪头!猪头!猪头!<br />
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山花须插满头归<br />
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我的妈妈<br />
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致以女儿的爱恋<br />
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我不相信他们<br />
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四月的枪上膛<br />
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在五月的原野<br />
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击穿六月 七月 八月……<br />
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人形的肉皮和了泥<br />
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捏一个弃你而去的国<br />
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可是 四月是杀不死的季节<br />
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你就要在四月死而复生<br />
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哪怕每天的雨水都是泪水<br />
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你的英容让春天洁净<br />
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灵岩要荣耀你的名<br />
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你的遗言洞穿刀剑<br />
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你的声音长出又一圈年轮<br />
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人间四月有女儿祭<br />
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祭缄口的牺牲 狂放的爱情<br />
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祭思想家 起义学生<br />
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饥饿而死的族群<br />
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祭 普罗米修斯和海鸥的歌者<br />
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祭 星火一样永远年轻的女人<br />
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祭奠一个名字 暴君闻声饮鸩<br />
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自由昭临<br />
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鸣谢:<br />
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感谢胡杰的版画与油画供图。<br />
感謝老蝌蚪用声音再现时光交错,塑造形象;感谢风景连夜配乐,推上喜马拉雅。<br />
我们一直在讨论,形象的细节来源、词与物、怎样在声音中表意……我改了一些听不明白的字、词、句—累了老蝌蚪,一遍又一遍重录、调整。<br />
老蝌蚪为文本注入了声音的情感分量,风景的配乐烘托了他的表达……<br />
<a href="https://m.ximalaya.com/share/sound/167865683?uid=85079144">满怀感激,献给听众朋友,给朱承志大哥,给依然被禁锢的第51个周年祭。</a><br />
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新年之初,我们尊敬的四川老作家张先痴再次入院,这次他病情危重。据初步诊断,慢阻性肺炎已到后期,半边肺已失去正常呼吸功能。现阶段张老正在医院全力抗感染治疗,我们期待能通过积极治疗争取出院;但目前进展缓慢,昨晚甚至发现有咯血症状。<br />
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入院以来,张先痴老人的妻子杨文婷一直陪伴在侧,成都五七难友、秋雨诸兄弟姐妹,都曾去医院探视,给张老以鼓励和安慰。<br />
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张老深知来日无多,他同意我们将他的大作《格拉古轶事》做成电子书,推荐给感兴趣的读者。我们是他的朋友和同道,我们非常愿意推荐这部用毕生苦难与心血成就的旷世之作。<br />
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这是一部饱含生命中苦难和血泪的书稿,是一位中国的格拉古孤岛幸存者尚未得到机会在此地面世的书稿。我们期待每一位有幸与这部书稿结缘的读者,深怀崇敬和感恩的心,向这位在命运面前坚强不屈的老人表达爱与关怀。<br />
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写书不易,写出这样一部回望深渊、凝视苦难和祭奠牺牲者的书更不易。而作为写作的前提,从那样的时代浩劫中活下来就不容易。我们期待,张老在有生之年,就能在精神上与他的读者相会和交流,就能感受到人世间还有温暖和情义。我们不是在为老人众筹,我们是在征请读者,你还有机会支持一位在世的老作家,你的赞赏是在维护独立写作的尊严和自由的价值。<br />
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胡杰、吳茂华、冉云飞、艾晓明、王荔蕻、谭作人<br />
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(最近有骗子盗用“我是一颗……唐”的二维码,骗取给张老的爱心捐款,款项去到江西的银行卡。请诸友明鉴,不要打赏给以上二维码,不要打赏有“沉雁璧花4”、冒充花夫人的“花夫人45”转发到骗子贴。)以下是张先痴老人的妻子杨文婷使用的惟一二维码。<br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit;">他们中的很多人,未必被人们看作文学家或者小说家;他们所从事的职业,也未必是和文字相关的。他们有一个共同的特点,曾经是共和国的死敌、罪犯,被判劳教、入监,服刑十年、二十年甚至更长时间。即使后来因“改正”、“平反”等名义释放,也不得不在社会底层、贱民角落挣扎图存……</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit;">但他们曾经受过教育,被当作知识分子——当然是在这个词的负面意义上,知识分子,曾经属于最恶劣范畴之第九层,和用于大粪的措辞来形容:“臭老九”。</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit;">他们中的很多人已经消失了,各种方式的消失,肉体的、精神的;在中国知识分子的精神史上,留下悲伤的、哀凄的、或者更不堪的软弱、麻木的影子;并且以其阴和暗的面长长地笼罩在今天的知识人的道路上。</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit;">但总有一些人脱颖而出,那就是这样一些幸存者,他们不甘被侮辱的命运起身反抗;这次他们用了语言文字的形式。来自他们笔下的监狱纪实、劳改回忆、劳教见闻……总之,我称之为幸存者文学,这必将成为未来读者研究今天这个时代的证言,同时,也是这样的作品,铺就了中国文学真正的基石。我说的当然不是今天教科书意义上的当代文学,而是摆脱了统治者意识形态规范、属于自由灵魂的书写,换言之,来自那些反抗缧绁奔向自由的人的书写。</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit;">张先痴老先生的作品《格拉古轶事》,属于这类文学作品的经典。</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit;">这是张老留给未来中国人的遗产,这本书的作者,没有像金庸那样名扬四海,也未曾像白桦那样成功一时,他只是千百万个生活被毁灭、青春被剥夺的时代受难者之一;惟一不同的是他诉诸于语言文字,写出了亲身经历。</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit;">汉语,只是因这样的文字才得免于在谎言、夸饰中毁灭;二十年苦难、十年书写,多少静夜里为爱人挚友、生离死别、屈辱巨创而嚎啕痛哭……一直写到一只眼近乎失明,走路端赖妻子携扶指点。</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit;">现在他躺下了,病情危重。他的书稿抵达你的指尖……你翻开一个人的生命依页阅览,你触摸的是不死鸟的羽翼、汉语精神的脉博。</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit;">最近有骗子冒充“唐”,盗用“我是一颗……唐”的二维码截留爱心人士给张老的捐款,有由“沉雁璧花4”、冒充”花夫人“的“花夫人45”推荐的骗子贴,打赏的款项去到江西的银行卡,切勿打赏骗子,请诸友明鉴。以下是张先痴先生妻子杨文婷使用的惟一二维码。</span></b><br />
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<br />wawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17266556312717223286noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049780900640330177.post-38579456555066488222018-12-02T23:22:00.000-08:002018-12-02T23:22:17.529-08:00邻居杀人:波兰二战期间耶德瓦布内小镇的屠犹秘史 ——读杨·T·格罗斯的《邻人》及相关影片笔记(1-10)<div class="MsoNormal">
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<b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">——读杨·T·格罗斯的《邻人》及相关影片笔记</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">(</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">1-1</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">0</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">)</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">一</span> </span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">、</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">纪念碑上的空白</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">二、挑战历史叙述:异议史学家格罗斯</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">我不能说我推崇高野先生的诗,也许我自己的品味趋向于更强的穿透和提炼。但我推崇他这种以写诗为生命的执拗、这种捍卫诗之存在的意志。想到那一代人中无数的沉默和无意义的喧嚣,想到汉诗在当代被蹂躏和掩埋的景象以及假诗崛起的荒诞。那么,还有什么比幸存者不眠不倦地保持写作的状态更重要呢?哪怕年迈体衰,屡战屡败,哪怕是诗章只是储藏</span>“多少无奈</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"> <span style="font-family: 宋体;">无告又无法排泄的哀伤</span>”,哪怕写诗本身,也成为伤害和屈辱,高野先生的诗深深铭刻了这种不屈的姿态。这些,比诗的完美更重要,比诗的形式更重要;因为,它本身就是生命之诗意。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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wawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17266556312717223286noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049780900640330177.post-28856015977053580792018-08-02T23:01:00.000-07:002018-08-02T23:01:17.157-07:00 来自窗外的注视 ——读文海新著《放逐的凝视》 <br />
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看文海有关中国独立纪录片的新著,想起比利时超现实主义画家马格利特的一幅画,一群人在窗户外看着墙内的我们。在这个比喻里,文海似乎是站在外面的一员,而我们这些通常持摄像机的人成为被观看的对象。理论上和现实中,文海目前都处在相对自由的位置,他这本书,放在墙内,就不可能出版。<br />
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墙内的我们——做中国独立纪录片的一族,尽管被封闭,却还像落在陷阱的野兽;困兽犹斗。这里,当然有着丰富的可以做纪录片的题材:地球上最广大而深厚的雾霾、最绚烂和多彩的水污染、最奇葩的化学添加组合食品,以及在苦难中忍辱负重的人民。还有端坐在电视中出席无穷无尽会议的统治者,以及生活中苦苦追逐人们思想情操的警察便衣;哪一种不是历史上濒临绝种的极品?<br />
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被文海在书中讨论而且也给予很多鼓励的我,其实缺乏写书评的心态。很多时候,我遗失了自己的身份。被国内的独立电影节自觉剔除,见不到自己的观众和读者,至于国外的选片人,也像隔代的星球不相遇。只有警察是最多和我讨论纪录片的人。虽然我近年作品很少,做得也很慢;但每到一个段落我们就会有交集。我曾建议警察主办独立电影节,或者让我去警官学校教电影。这样,我们反而有机会探讨作为独立艺术的电影语言吧?但这种组合注定很奇怪,你想让警察作为审片人还是观众?你让你的朋友把你看作同类还是线人?<br />
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扯了这一大篇,我的意思是,在大多数情况下我几乎忘了自己是谁。被限制出境已经进入第八年,被警察循循善诱更超过八年。在这年复一年里,我的智力在他们眼里返老还童,以至于限制我的理由成了被保护。可能在警察看来,这些搞独立纪录片的,不是老痴就是幼稚,需要在警察的指挥棒下牙牙学语。就算没有这么残,那也是居心叵测的危险动物。我有时不免变态,对警察的使命表示同情。追逐人们的思想特别是艺术家的创作冲动,这是不是比弗洛伊德更为难?当然,人家又哪里需要我的同情;而我族类多少艺术生命被搁浅,长歌当哭也不要哭错了门庭。<br />
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文海的工作于我来说,仿佛是那个在海滩上的孩子,他拾起星鱼扔到海里让它们重返生命的本源。这些人——中国抗争性纪录片作家,被对手敌视、被朋友自我审查的一群,在文海的书里,得到尊重,构成中国独立电影中最重要的一脉。<br />
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文海有过电影学院的专业训练,曾经在央视工作,后来脱离体制拍片。他参与过王兵的《夹边沟》、《三姊妹》、艾未未的《童话》等重要作品的拍摄。他独立完成的《军训营纪事》、《喧哗的尘土》、《壳》等纪录片,参加过法国真实电影节、葡萄牙里斯本国际电影节等重要的国际影展。他亲历国内独立影展的兴起和困境,并和那些著名策展人有直接交往。这使文海能够以见证人的身份来探讨中国独立纪录片,包括从最初的反叛主流到参与社会运动的历程。<br />
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这本书有六章,第一章“决绝”描述了从上个世纪九十年代开始的独立记录,重点讨论了胡杰和王兵见证历史和社会变迁的纪录片。第二章“空间”呈现了在北京、上海、南京以及云南出现的放映空间,梳理了如“中国独立影像展”、“云之南”等影展的波折以及与国外电影节的交流。第三章是社会抗争性的纪录片在内容边界上的拓展,重点讨论了如胡佳的《自由城的囚徒》、王我的《我们》、赵亮的《上访》等作品。第四章把我的作品《天堂花园》、《我们的娃娃》、徐辛的《克拉玛依》、艾未未的《老妈蹄花》等片作为一组,考察在公民抗争背景下纪录片内容和制作方式的突破。第五章纳入了更多的抗争性纪录片,如郭锡志解构意识形态生产的作品《喉舌》、何杨反映福建三网民案主人公之一的《赫索格的日子》……随之而来的是北京、南京、云之南三个主要的独立电影节遭遇困境,被迫停办。第六章《结束即是开始》描述了在这些影展停办过程中以及停办之后依然顽强生存下来的作品,如艾未未的《平安乐清》、胡杰的《星火》、王兵的《疯爱》、翰光的《流亡》、林鑫的《生存三部曲》等。<br />
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通过文海的梳理,我们看到这一脉纪录片的力量所在。它挑战禁忌,反抗强权,坚持自由拍摄,追随社会改变。尽管言论环境严酷,独立纪录人和观众之间的交流被阻隔,但依然产生了一批作品,为中国的极权灾难、社会冲突和民生疾苦留下宝贵影像。文海对此寄予厚望:“未来中国的电影应该在这批独立电影导演所构筑的基础上继续演化,所有独立电影导演都肩负着这份责任”。文海还没有来得及讨论近几年涌现出来的新人新作,但这份责任肯定是更多地落在后来人身上了。<br />
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在每一章都有文海所做的人物访谈,他和胡杰、林鑫、我、翰光谈有关纪录片的观念、主要作品的缘起、构思与影响等。他也和朱日坤谈影展的策划,与律师滕彪谈公民运动、新媒体与争取话语权的关系。书中还有崔卫平教授对文海自己的访谈,这些记录可以帮助读者从不同角度了解导演、策展人、公民权利意识和影像的互动关系。而每一章后都附有关于人物与作品的注释,最多达91条,这也为读者展开研究提供了线索。<br />
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回到本文的开头,也许,把文海的著作看作窗外人的关注是不确切的。在心灵上,文海和此地的我们心息相通。回望中国独立纪录片的历史,文海是知音也是战友。写到这里,我想起电影《石榴的颜色》的开头,俄罗斯异议艺术家帕拉捷诺夫(SERGEI PARAD JANOV)在这里,用五个静物画面一遍又一遍地重复着同一句话:“我是一位生活和内心充满痛苦的人”。那是诗人的独白,是啊,怎能不如此?既然如此,那么,借用文海的话,那就沉下去吧,接近这苦难的河床,“扎根、扎根、扎根……”<br />
与文海共勉。<br />
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2017年1月6日于雾霾天wawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17266556312717223286noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049780900640330177.post-23301172520567355182018-08-02T22:31:00.004-07:002018-08-02T22:31:49.967-07:00“学习所有她为了抵触这些痛楚付出的努力”<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 21.0000pt;">
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">再一个,当女孩鼓足勇气告诉母亲;甚至在母亲发现女孩被性侵的处境时,母亲往往选择退让甚至忍气吞声:</span>“</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">我妈回了一条很短的消息,只有五个字。时隔多年我还是记忆犹新,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">‘</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">躲开就好了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">。</span>’”“</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">派出所了解情况的时候我妈跟我说,别说他摸了你的胸,女孩子家家的不好。我也没有说。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">”“妈妈安慰我说老师只是对你特别宠爱而已,但她其实已经意识到了事情的严重性”,“妈妈第二天赶到学校详细的询问我发生了什么,并选择了绝对相信我,但他们选择了沉默,”……</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">若要问母亲们为什么选择忍让,一个是在性之不可说的禁忌,更重要的则是男权的贞操观。女性的性是节操的象征,被性侵者失去了贞操,因此是格外的不洁和可耻。她对性侵的每一个指控都将社会想象凝聚到她的私处,正如这次讨论中脱离了女作家主体的屁股和大腿,她的创伤成为公共展品。这个展品代表了应该压抑的欲望和无法掩饰的不洁;简言之,她就是个行走的耻辱器皿,人人得以唾骂之。怪了,为什么不骂性侵者?因为在文化中,男性的主体性是无需置疑的,男性在性上的主动性(侵略性)是男性气质的一部分。即使男性不可性侵,这并不是他的性本身有问题。他天然是性的拥有者、统治者和狩猎人。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14.0000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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wawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17266556312717223286noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049780900640330177.post-55230827300743994502018-07-29T05:23:00.003-07:002018-07-29T05:25:55.571-07:00支持Me Too,就是支持女权反压迫运动<span style="font-size: medium;">—接受凤凰网读书版编辑袁菁菁专题访问</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">艾晓明 (中山大学退休教授,女权倡行者)</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">这一周我看到女权运动的突出进展,十五年前,几乎不能想象这场运动有可能发生。那时我们在中山大学和广告商辩论一则歧视女性的广告;会议结束后我们师生团队气得要死。而那时我们的人数很少,认同我们观点的媒体朋友也少。我们在学校刚开始开设妇女和性别研究的公选课。如今,有那么多年轻女性参与推动国际性的反性骚扰metoo运动,勇敢发声;这对于维护女性权利,争取性别的公平正义是非常好的一件事。这是我的第一感受。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">第二,在反对性骚扰的议题上,人们认识的差异超过我的想象。来自朋友圈里媒体界、律师界以及平时在反专制上可以联手的人们之间,反响很不一样。我看到厌女症,看到男权观念的反弹。说保守或者更严重一点,好多观点是挺腐朽的。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">章文居然肆无忌惮地表达:“我连杀了她的心都有”。这让我愤怒,也为举报者担心。这是公然的人身威胁,居然没有被重视和批评。言为心声啊,他是个有影响的知识分子,不会不考虑公开这么说的分量。发出这种威胁,是触犯刑法的行为。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">还有像公开诅咒一位年轻女作家:“这个女人太邪恶”,也是我想不到的。一位享有盛誉的杂文家、《南方周末》的资深评论家,可以在批评言论中如此情绪化,完全不在意这是人身攻击,这是多么强烈的厌女症。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">从目前被曝光的性骚扰/性侵事件里,还能看到这种情况相当普遍。如果没有这次me too 运动的激励,女性、包括在性别权利结构里面处于弱势的同性恋取向的男性,不会有这么多人站出来发声,指控性骚扰者,讲述自己的压抑和心理创伤。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">由此可见,争取平等权利,创造出对女性友好的职场环境非常艰难。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">这是我们必须面对的艰难现实,女权运动的历史超过一百年,但在中国,进入高校、职场的女性,在一些所谓的知识分子、专家那里,首先还是一个欲望的猎物、性对象。这种歧视女性的文化传统必须改变。需要在高校坚持开设推广妇女和性别平等教育,推进相关课程,挑战在学术圈、媒体界的男权观念。Metoo 运动带来了一个批判的契机,使我们可以通过案例分析来曝光、检视那些依然强大的、歧视女性的观念。有人说这是文革式的大批判,不是的。MEtoo 的批判有现实基础,有很多女性的经验可以佐证;它不是猎巫,而是要带来对社会文化的改造,终结女性因性别而遭受的压迫和困境。这场文化批判终于开始了,我觉得这太好了。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">有批评说是帮了政府的忙,转移人们对疫苗危机的重视,还有说政府或者是权力集团想摧毁公益机构或公益代表,他们没有做到的事情,被反性侵的这些女权行动派做到了。Me too简直大逆不道。我觉得这是受困于“阴谋论”了:</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">首先从疫苗问题来看,像我自己,还有像我们Me too运动里很多积极的活动家,对疫苗问题是非常关注的。我们不是说从今天才开始关注社会运动,关注公平正义和各种社会问题的,很多人都不是。女权运动的活动家们,从支持结束收容遣送制度、关注网络表达自由、介入农民工、女工权益以及参与珠三角的工人维权,这些都可以查到记录。女权行动派是推动社会公平正义的重要力量,这是第一个。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">第二,疫苗涉及人权和公共安全,反击性骚扰、性侵害同样是维护人权和公共安全;女性在高校、职场的人身安全,这怎么能缩小为个人的生活作风或者私德瑕疵?家暴过去人们也认为是私事,现在认识不一样了。为什么疫苗问题大家觉得需要全民关注,性骚扰却变成个人小事?这恰恰是因为大家已经习惯了,女性在性别层级上就是处于劣势,她们进入公共空间仿佛是被男性特权所让渡的,是一件高抬贵手的事情。她的权利被剥夺得太久了,她们的故事也因此失声,被埋没甚至找不到语言去讲。她们作为花瓶、香氛,在官场或者文人夜宴里陪酒调节气氛,人们对她们的处境司空见惯了。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">今天我写了文章《搞了一百年,不过一群娼妓——咪兔去死,你满意了吗?》就是因为看到一些不靠谱的留言,有点忍无可忍。如有律师一再强调女性不应该抽烟、喝酒到娱乐场所;那样的话你怎么能避免得了性骚扰?我说你是从清朝穿越过来的吗?其实在将近一百年前,1920年代就有女性抽烟喝酒,出入娱乐场所了。中国电影工业的兴起,不是因为有大量职业化的女明星在舞台上做贡献吗?娱乐场合怎么了?娱乐是现代社会的起点之一。出入娱乐场合犯罪吗?为什么你不认为性侵害、性骚扰是犯罪,而认为女性抽烟喝酒,出入娱乐场合是犯罪呢。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">也就是说他就没有把女性当做和他同等的性别群体,她有能力和你一样在职业场上打拼,和你一样需要安全尊严的工作环境。包括讨论中另一些拿文人纳妾、风情、娼妓之类来做对比的言论,我都不知道这些从事现代职业,接受了博士教育的人脑子里对女性的想法是哪个朝代的。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">我还看到一篇谈法律的公众号文章,它讨论性骚扰的定义说,性骚扰不是一个法律用语,根据现代汉语词典上讲的什么什么。我说你讨论法律问题,首先是谈定义对不对?我就把2005年禁止性骚扰写入法律、各省对这条法律的进一步解释都转在群里。我说你到汉语词典上去找法律用语的依据吗,有没有搞错?我们不能说哪个词进入了汉语词典就可以拿到法庭上去衡量犯罪吧?</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">所以说观念差异太大了,你讨论法律问题,都不知道有禁止性骚扰这条法律,还谈法律定义,洗洗睡吧。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">还有说你们这是搞延安整风啊,摧毁公益清誉啊,都是胡说八道。一个从事公益工作的人,不管他是负责人,还是活动家,他并不能因为已有的贡献而避免舆论监督和社会批评。目前他们受到批评的,也不是针对他们的公益奉献,不是针对公益的理想;而是说在对待女性的性态度上,你举止不当,让女性身处被骚扰和控制的工作环境。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">第二点,我认为践行公益理想的人,对社会承担了更多的责任,公众寄望于你。你代表了人权的理想和普世价值。那么你当然需要在工作中提高性别平等的意识、权利和尊严的意识。如果机构缺乏这方面教育机制,那么应该弥补和建设。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">而现在的问题是,人们发现一些公益代表背离了这些价值和理想。或者说更年轻的一代有更自觉的意识和追求。这恰恰是捍卫公益理想,是对公益组织和公益人的提升;也是对公益本身意义的彰显。性骚扰显然不符合公平正义的理想,也不符合人权的普世价值;为什么不揭露它,为什么不驱除它;为什么不以积极的行动吸引更多人的参与?</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">更何况,从受到批评的个人来讲;他也可以成为积极纠错的榜样啊。假如他过去没有认识到问题,他不是正可以用这个机会来自我更新和提升,争取谅解和再出发?</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">我们必须看到,公益运动不是依靠偶像来维持的。社会运动的规律就是前浪推后浪,新的浪潮带出新的活动家和领导者。这样的性别意识更敏感,人权理想更清晰的青年人站出来,难道不是更好的事吗?有什么可悲观的?怎么会认为揭露性侵害,反对性骚扰破坏了公益?难道把性侵害、性骚扰行为当做公益吗?这太扯了。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">(补问:因为现在中国的舆论环境经常是出现一个热点,过一段时间有一个新的热点出现就会淹没掉前一个。而很多切实落地的解决方案依然非常欠缺,这一次中国的Me too运动,您有什么建议或者期待?)</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">在推动者中间,大家都在讨论,我们怎么样可以出台一些教育工具或者是手册形式的政策建议,使得各个公益机构可以来做培训,提升自己机构人员的性别平等意识,厘清性骚扰、性侵犯的基本概念,找出措施和对策,使受到性骚扰、性侵害的人得到有效的投诉和维权的途径。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">像广州性别中心,各地高校的、公益机构和女权圈的朋友们,很多年轻朋友组成了各个团队。大家这几天都在紧张工作,包括跟进个案,建立平台,交流讨论,筹备工具包,自媒体与门户网站互动。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">大家这样做实际上是亡羊补牢,希望公益运动自身能够展现新的面貌;在全社会成为禁止性骚扰、性侵犯的典范。与此同时,面对不断曝光的厌女症、荡妇羞辱等,Me too运动还会激发出更强大的反抗能量;会有更多沉默的人站出来,讲述个人生命中被压抑的经验,让这个社会警醒。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">从效用来说,社会运动的目标很难一蹴而就。韩国电影《熔炉》讲述在一个聋哑学校发生的性骚扰,这个案子提交到法庭上以后,它也遇到了重重的阻力;以至于一个孩子迫不得已走上独立复仇的路。在给这个孩子开追悼会的时候,那些聋哑人家长更遭遇到国家暴力。警察用高压水枪驱散聚集的人群,那位帮助孩子的老师抱着孩子的照片说,他叫明秀,他是一个听不见声音,也不会说话的孩子。他就不断地重复这几句话,其实也让观众知道,被性侵的孩子即使有人代言,他们的故事也难以被采信。因为压迫他们的人掌握着话语权,法律的规则也是强势群体制定的;所以他们有这个能力去压抑弱者的声音。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">实际上性侵害、性骚扰发生,就是因为存在这个支持强奸的社会力量和文化。所以一次挑战你赢不了。但也不是说了无痕迹,反抗者的社会运动如水滴石穿,或者说逆水行舟,你就是要坚持。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">其实不光是要争取性别平等,在其他方面,在我们社会权利匮乏的情况下,争取哪一方面的权利都需要长期不懈。比方说争取公共安全,争取儿童的健康权,争取我们公民的选举权,争取舆论监督权,争取言论自由、新闻自由、表达自由,哪一项是一个运动可以完成的?需要一波又一波的挑战和迎击。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">这次好像在公民圈、知识分子中撕出裂痕;好像性别这个坑有点大,有的人掉下去,有的人绕着弯也不吭声。这其实也有一点像美国女权运动经历的情形,那时也有人认为,废除奴隶的大目标是超过女性争取选举权的目标的;或者说是由于战争的需要,战争的目标是更重要的,它也超过女性平权的意义。常常有这种男性中心的观念是认为,统一的社会改革的目标是更重要的,争取性别平等这个目标是可以放一放的,因为后者只是代表少部分人,只是一部分人的权利诉求,因此是它总是可以让位的。我们现在看到的对待性侵的观念分野,也重复了西方女权运动早期的情形。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">女权后来发展成相对独立的社会运动了,它不止是普遍的争取人权、争取选举权的运动。因为女性有自己特殊的权利诉求,她所受到的压迫来自不同的原因,不是说阶级的原因或者是种族的原因可以替代,它还有性别的原因。那么从性别的角度上来讲,比如说有一些男性,他可能在阶级位阶上属于弱势的,但是在性别这个位阶上,他是属于强势的,属于有优先权的。他不会因为性别的原因受歧视。在性侵犯、性骚扰的现实中,女性常常是因为性别的原因成了被骚扰的对象,她的权利被漠视,处于权利上的弱势。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">因此我们现在看到自由派的分裂(假如有这个自由派的话,我姑且不加质疑地借用这个说法),不过是历史的再现;尤其在中国这个女权批判话语还不够强大的场域,分裂不仅正常而且也是必然的事。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">因此我要向那些勇敢站出来的女性致敬,虽然这个话已经被很多人说过了,我还要再说一遍。正是她们的勇气为更多的后来者祛除了污名,包括强加给她们的“荡妇”羞辱。漠视女权的人权目标是不完整的,而却乏女性参与的社会运动也是狭隘的;通过ME TOO动员起来的女性反压迫行动,给中国争取公平正义的社会运动带来新的动力,从这个意义上来说,它实在令人振奋。</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">前几天外出,很少看微信;因此错过有关救助诗人殷龙龙的信息。后从友人家坪那里得知,龙龙在上月底经过九小时大手术,目前情况有好转,已经离开</span>ICU<span style="font-family: 宋体;">。</span></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">我很牵挂龙龙,尽管朋友们捐赠帮助他度过了这次危机,但难说以后还会发生什么。除了响应朋友们的呼吁,我觉得重要的是,应该有更多的读者了解龙龙,知道他独树一帜。保护我们的诗人,是保护语言的自由,保护汉诗精髓的续存,也是保护我们的脊椎和喉咙。</span> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">我第一次见到龙龙,是在</span>2010<span style="font-family: 宋体;">年春。那时我们还相信,可以创造出公民发声的强大空间,相信“抱团取暖”、“围观改变中国”……在北京,一批为福建三网友呼吁的朋友聚集在一起。那时,华泽还是央视的节目导演,文涛还没有被八十一天手铐逼供,刘晓原还没有被吊照,屠夫还在发挥他的维权创意,滕彪还是人权律师的代表,王荔蕻也还没有被九个月监禁,何杨正在发力,崔老师翩翩起舞,没有人漂泊去国……在一大桌人中间,龙龙歪着大脑袋,被朋友们呵护着聚餐,他吃得慢,说得更慢。后来我知道,他是我们中间多么重要的一位,如果没有龙龙的参与,我们经历的那些风起云涌的政治事件,怎会有诗的记录!</span></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">假如说这个时代有政治反对的立场,龙龙的诗里奔涌着这一脉骨血。假如说真正有反骨的抗争者其实不多,龙龙的诗更因此而显示出稀缺的品质。在言论不自由的环境下,自我审查几乎是生存的前提,很多人写诗都回避政治,龙龙则不。看他写的《乱诗》,(不费点事,你在网上轻易找不到这首),副标题:</span>“此诗间接献给钱运会、力虹、滕彪等中国人”。如果不关注这些年的社会运动,今天的读者,有谁还知道这些名字吗?龙龙把他们象征的事件和牺牲,嵌进了诗的标题里。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">这便是乌托邦世界的爱,它浓缩了统治者和人民的关系。龙龙,一个把脑袋撑起来都费劲的诗人,内心却有强大的洞察力。在另一首有关</span>“喝茶”的诗里,龙龙把他受到的威胁比作“小儿科”:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">今天,我在他们面前一点也不在乎</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">两千年的祈祷只为言语之罪、福建三网友之罪</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">明白了,他们绑架的是我的邪恶</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">颤抖吗,皇上啊?在你无所不用其极的暴虐之上,还有一位诗人的冷眼鸟瞰。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">二 情义哀愁</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">龙龙写过的政治诗并不能收入正式出版的诗集,但在朋友中流传,在删与转之间沉浮。这些和公义、抗争有关的诗篇,也承载了深刻的哀愁。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">如两首有关刘先生的诗,其一写于刘先生获刑十一年,另一首写在刘先生去世后。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">《留下奥波》,你可以从标题读出那被抹煞的名字,也可以联想到其他的、消失在人类诗歌史上的智者(他叫蓝波或者晓波)。这是一位诗人和另一位诗人的对话,是兄弟间的情义信守;是不可阻隔的友谊担当。诗人祈愿在漫长刑期之终点的重逢:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">你一定要从牢里出来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">哪怕只剩一条腿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">我们抱着腿回家</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">重新给它装上身躯和大脑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">重新捏胳膊</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">“</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">哪怕只剩一缕衣衫</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">/</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">我们穿着它</span>”;“哪怕只剩刘氏自由的精神”,在我们中间游荡。最后几句,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">有唐诗般</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">朴素和亲切</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">的情境</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">11年后</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">我将告诉我的孙子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">把外面的风雪轰得远远</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">我们要接一个人,一个灵魂回家</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">将近九年,晓波在监禁中离去的五天之后,龙龙写下《哀伤让我送刘先生一程》,全诗如下:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">我不得不勇敢</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">不得不把绞索拉近一点</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">黑暗中,那片森林裸露着青筋,叫喊</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">暴雨在风中寻找回家的人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">找到找不到一样进入</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">那里的绿色先黑下来,接着是蓝色,青灰色</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">黄色的葫芦收回妖怪,关门闭户</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">最后一集留给白色</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">多少误会树叶般茂盛又凋零</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">今晚我们暂且不见面,顺带一生</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">诗里仿佛是在重现死者的临终,人最脆弱的时刻,多少不甘依然直面黑暗的垂落。在我们从未见识的、生离死别的丛林,仿佛但丁即将踏上的《神曲》之旅,龙龙带我们进入逐渐暗淡的弥留。诗的结尾点化了刘先生颇有争议的断语(或许我的联想太逻辑化了),但增加了不确定性,这是随意又永恒的决绝,哀婉、深幽、无穷隐痛。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">也感觉不到妈妈的存在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">你不要哭,不要贿赂警察或城管</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">妈妈,你看我用一根食指就能打开博客</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;">而路上的投诉信,像讨饭一样讨说法</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 14pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">我最初拟定的题目是《凝望杨改兰》,我觉得,杨改兰案像一道深渊,你不得不去凝望,却又怯于凝望,也望不到底。不得不,是因为杨改兰的行为突破了人伦底线,杀子与母亲身份如此对立,颠覆了母职神圣的价值。舆论把杨改兰家庭的贫困状态带到聚光灯下,而这个社会陷入贫穷和危机的人群又是如此之多;杨改兰突如其来的杀人和自毁,你想象不到何时就会在自己身边发生。恐怖分子可以在纽约或巴黎展开仇杀,杨改兰会举刀斧劈向亲生儿女。这些孩子,就像巴黎音乐厅被绑架的人质一样,从无防备,也无法反抗。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">我想</span>“凝望”,是想透视杨改兰的犯罪动机。如此,我们的恐惧才能开释,并找到对策。恐怖主义尚有动机,袭击者高喊为了叙利亚和伊拉克。杨改兰为什么杀孩子,连当地刑警也感到困惑。她也没有对舆论中“恶婆婆”发出指控,她还对奶奶说了歉意的话,并且叮嘱亲人,以后有好吃的端给阿奶。她含糊地说到自己遭到逼迫,全村的人告了她。但警方证明,没有村民举报或揭发她的事实。</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">《情况通报》在杨家的家庭总收入和人均纯收入方面,精确到人民币两个小数点。近年来在日常交易中,以</span>“一分钱”为单位的计算方法已经消失了。而杨家的连续三年的总收入,都有几毛几分钱的零头,具体如下:</span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2013</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">12</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月份,入户调查计算家庭总收入为:</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">36585.76</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元,经调查后再定为:</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "arial"; font-size: 11pt;">39915.76</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元。</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2015</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年其家庭总收入为</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">38164.5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元,人均纯收入为</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">4770.6</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元。</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2016</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1-8</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月份家庭总收入</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">20120</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">杨家一年总收入不足四万元,已经属于</span>“脱贫户”。而在这个年收入基础上迭加几百倍、几千倍,才不过是被曝光的官员贪腐数千万、数亿的额度;更不必说那些非法获得数十亿以上财富的大老虎类。简单的数字对比,已经表明人们权力之不平等的惊人程度。</span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">从这份情况通报到近期对案件的定性处置,可以看出政府思路,即将杨改兰案件起因归咎于</span>“家庭矛盾”,而非公众质疑的“取消低保”和“扶贫不准”。否则,通报里也不至于把杨家今年</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1-8</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月的家庭总收入也算进去。从时间点来说,这也令人不安。悲剧中最后一位死者李克英尸骨未寒,今年全家</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1-8</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月的总收入已统计完毕。除此之外,在农民家庭总收入中一般不计算在内的农用三轮车、彩电、洗衣机各一,也都被公之于众。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">但在</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2013</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年杨家被取消低保的这个关键年份,浮现了第一个问题:在通报的第五部分第一点</span>“关于杨满堂家庭没有纳入低保的说明”指出:</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2013</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">12</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月份的</span>“入户调查中,其家庭总收入为</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">36585.76</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元。</span>”以此计算的人均纯收入为</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5226.5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元。但用</span>“</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">3</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">658</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5.76</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">”</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">除以人均纯收入,得到人均数为</span>“</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">7</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">人</span>”。然而在</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2013</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年度,杨家的实际人口却已增至</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">8</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">人。杨改兰的第四个孩子,于这年</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">23</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">日出生。按入户调查的总收入计算,人均纯收入应该是</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">4573.22</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">,而不是</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5226.5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">通报中杨家连续三年的人均纯收入,均超过</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">4</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">千</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">7</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">百元。这个数字已经高于</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2015</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年底阿姑山村农民人均纯收入</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">4647</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元。但问题是,记者在现场看到以及村民所反映的杨家之贫困,与这个高于村民人均收入的数字也不匹配。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">这里,需要对农民的</span>“人均纯收入”概念略作说明,才能接近这个数字的实际内涵。尤其需要理解的是,农民的人均纯收入与城市人的可支配收入不能划等号。区别可以大略概括为三点:第一,农民的人均纯收入含实物收入,不全是现金。第二,农民的人均纯收入,还要留出一部分作为再生产的投入费用,不像城市人可以将收入全部用于安排日常生活。第三,农民的人均纯收入就那么多,不包含其他收入;而城市人在可支配收入外,还间接得到医疗、住房等方面的福利性收入。</span></b><b><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">这里产生了六万多费用,应该是除去尸检费用之外的交通、住宿、医院抢救和火化费用,医院抢救费当属支出的主要部分。通报里没有列出具体开支项目,我们可以了解到的是,从康乐到兰州大巴四十元,包车大概四</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">-</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">五百元。遗体火化标准各地不一,网上有一份兰州殡仪馆的服务收费项目,最高收费八百元,农户减免百分之二十五。大体上,五千元左右已经可以涵盖医疗抢救之外的费用。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">我们先来看有关计生规定:</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">第一,育龄女性要有准生证;没有准生证而生育者,各地有罚款,数额不一。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">第二,生育二胎者有严格条件,例如双独</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">/ </span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">大孩残</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">/</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">烈士</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">/</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">男上门女独</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">/</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">两代独</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">/</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">亲兄弟中唯一能生育者。而且,获准生育后,二胎之间间隔需达四年;否则亦属于违规超生。罚款一般是以农民的上年度人均纯收入为基准的</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">3-4</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">倍。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">第三,不符合规定再生育第三胎者,罚款是前述基数的</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">6-8</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">倍。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">罚款以</span>“社会抚养费”名义征收;在甘肃农村,罚款标准和实际贯彻的情形,远超过这个数。从中央门户网站公布的一份审计报告可以看出。</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2013</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">9</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月,也就是杨改兰家第四个孩子出生的四个月后,国家审计署发出《甘肃</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个县社会抚养费征收管理办法实施审计结果》,其中,审计组对皋兰等</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个县</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">34</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个乡镇</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">54</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个行政村</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">203</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">人做了入户调查,其中考察的主要是</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2009</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年至</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2012</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年的情况,从中可见:</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">一、征收社会抚养费数额相当大,因此也被看作维持低生育水平的有效手段;这五个县市级征收到的费用达</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2745.81</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">万元。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">二、社会抚养费征收标准尽管不一致,但是对生育第四个子女的征收费数额高昂。「如环县的环城等</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个乡镇,对生育第四个以上子女的计划外生育行为,按基数的</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">14</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">倍征收社会抚养费,而合道等</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">3</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个乡镇按</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">28</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">倍征收。按环县</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2011</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年农村居民年人均纯收入</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">3087</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元计算,应分别缴纳社会抚养费</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">4.32</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">万元和</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">8.64</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">万元。」</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">三、即使符合再生育条件的夫妻,如果违反了「生育程序」(例如未经批准生育),征收费用低则</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">500</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元,最高达到</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2000</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">四、根据审计中发现的问题,甘肃省政府督促相关单位积极整改。包括对少报漏报的生育人口进行补报,统一征收标准,</span></span><b><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">加大征收社会抚养费力度。</span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">其实在那些年代,农村家庭超生很普遍。如果第一胎是女孩,农户希望第二胎生男孩,就不会去申请准生证,把自己套进计生圈套里。如果第二胎生了男孩,在缴纳罚款方面也会采取拖延或争取分期缴纳等抗争形式。如果第二胎还是女孩,在传统压力下,育龄夫妇会努力再生一个撞大运。超生中也有各种人为因素,影响到社会抚养费的少征或未征收。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">结果,这份报告提到:</span>“已立案征收的社会抚养费</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2982.1</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">万元未征收到位。</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个县</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">34</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个乡镇</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2009</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年至</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2012</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月下达</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">2571</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">份征收决定书,共应征收社会抚养费</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">3976.92</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">万元,实际征收</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">885.33</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">万元。</span>”这也是甘肃省政府要求“加大力度”征收的原因。</span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">如果前述规定落实到杨改兰家庭,那么除了违反生育程序而需要缴纳的相对少量费用外,为获得第四个孩子的合法生存,他们应该追缴巨额</span>“社会抚养费”。按康乐县情况通报中</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">2013</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年人均纯收入</span></span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">4989.5</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元计算,如果按环县做法罚款</span></span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">14</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">倍,那就是</span></span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">69853</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元,再翻到</span></span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">28</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">倍是</span></span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">139706</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元,分别接近</span></span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">7</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">万和</span></span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">14</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">万。去年杨家</span></span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">4</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个孩子登记入户籍,也同时给下一步征收社会抚养费,创造了精准无误的条件。</span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">撰写本文的过程中,我看到康乐县</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">9</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">16</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">日最新通报,处分包括副县长在内的六位县、镇、村级干部。但在教训和反思方面,排在首位的是对杨家家庭内部</span>“矛盾纠纷排查调处不主动不及时”。相对于公众讨论指向的公共政策、乡村治理;政府通报先归因到私领域个人问题。</span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">杨满堂出生的</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;">1963</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年,中国农村刚刚度过惨绝人寰的三年大饥荒。此前几年在甘肃临夏,很多育龄妇女都因饥饿绝经。据《临夏县志》记载:</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1960</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年,全县人均口粮在半斤以下,号召「瓜菜代」。入春以来更趋严重,因饥饿,野菜,榆树皮刨光,剥光,能吃的全部用来延续生命,甚至发生人相食、绝户现象。时任甘肃省妇联主席李磊,就在</span></span><a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=8049780900640330177#v=onepage&q&f=false"><u><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: #1155cc; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">回忆录《悠悠岁月》中</span></span></u></a><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">,引述了中央派到临夏工作组在</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;">1961</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;">3</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;">8</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">日的报告:</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">“全市</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1959</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年、</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1960</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年两年来共死亡</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">41381</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">人,占总人口</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">8.7</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">%。</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;">……</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">有的生产队和小队人口死亡达到三分之一,甚至二分之一以上。红台小沟门生产队共有人口</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1267</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">人,死去</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">414</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">人,占人口</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">32</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">%。癿藏锦光九小队</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">106</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">人,死</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">67</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">人,占</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">63</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">%。有的灭门绝户死亡一空。</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;">……</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">红台公社阳洼李家庄贫农马有卜全家</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">10</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">口人,全死在坑上,尸体腐烂了无人埋。有的妇女死亡,小孩还爬在母亲尸体上吃奶。</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;">……</span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">大饥荒那几年是杨兰芳的少女时代,半世纪过去,我看到照片上古稀之年的杨兰芳,掀开家中厚重的老式粮柜,给记者看内里存放的干馍。这图景再现了饥荒记忆的底色</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 11pt;">——</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">木质柜门下是足够一个人吃一星期的干馍。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">杨兰芳的招赘丈夫出走后,她一人带着</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">5</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">个子女。那是在</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1968-1970</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年代;文革还在继续。公社化集体经济时代,干同样的活,女人的工分通常比男人少。单身母亲杨兰芳能挣多少工分养活五个孩子?</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"> </span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">笔者</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1970</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年作为知青下乡,在远比甘肃条件好的湖北荆门丘陵地带,当年还有对知青粮食补贴。如此,全年分红</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">13</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">元人民币,平均一个月</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;">1</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">块零八分钱。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">回顾她的生活史,就能看到脾气坏的恶婆婆,脱胎于这样的艰难时世。半个多世纪过去,在这座土坯房里的长大的孙女儿,以不同形式上演了人吃人的惨剧。的确,饥荒年代不再,</span></span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;">G20</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">峰会的盛世歌舞都未落幕。假如这件事首先要怪罪到</span>“恶婆婆”,那么,婆婆之无户籍的后半生,何尝不是恶政之下个人颠沛流离的结果。</span></b><b><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); color: blue; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">农民与户籍连带的个人权利包括:</span>“拥有承包地和宅基地”、“集体收益分配”、“大病保险和新农合”。杨兰芳不能纳入低保,我怀疑她也没有得到前面那几项权益。如今孙女一家尽数殒命,只剩年过半百的儿子,她的养老处境更其窘困。</span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">是的,她有能繁母猪一头,但是母猪能繁不能弥补户籍缺失导致的一系列权利缺失。一个社会成员的人性和对尊严的心理需求,又岂能靠母猪的繁殖能力去维护?她作为社会成员的基本资格都被注销了,社会又有什么资格去审判她的道德呢?</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">有人说:杨改兰可能真的有精神病,各种恐怖幻象早已在她心灵作祟;或者在梦中受到邪灵感召,必须在某日处决孩子踏上征途。我没有能力去说明杨改兰的心理裂变,也不能否定说她未必不是躁狂性抑郁症患者。一场人伦惨剧,原因肯定是多方面的。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">然而,通过对政府通报中一系列数字的追究,我们至少可以得出结论:杨改兰的生活太艰难,她的困境分别指向低收入、繁重的育儿负担,和无法摆脱的日常劳役。相对她的生活期待,这是她无能抗拒的打击。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">直到近几天,我才看到网上披露的杨改兰证件照:模样壮硕,眼神坚定,双颊留有两块红印,似是黄土高原上阳光的印记。由此联想到媒体报导里几个细节:杨改兰在走向不归路之前,脱下旧有的黄色线衣,换上红色运动衫,这是乡民和家人从未见她穿过的衣服。直到悲剧发生,人们才知道杨改兰具有怎样的叛逆和破坏性。她决绝冷静,不留余地。她说即使留下大女儿,到了</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255 , 255 , 255); font-family: "courier new"; font-size: 11pt;">18</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">岁还是有人处理,白拉扯。</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: blue;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">杨改兰因此会成为一个符号,她是女性牺牲和母职神话的终结者。本文前面有关脱贫收入的分析,说的是杨改兰和一般乡村贫困线上下男性人群共同的处境,而后面有关她的养育负担和童年时代开始代行母职的经历,则是女性的特殊处境。正是在后一个方面,杨改兰的行为挑战了公众的想象力。谁告诉你女性必须不惜一切地成为母亲、照顾者、养育者?谁告诉你女性除此之外别无出路?杨改兰之不给说法,或曰你不理解,掀翻了把她死死压倒的母职负担,抨击了女性天职和母亲美德的绝对正义性。是的,杨改兰不理智,可是以天职之名把母亲变成繁殖动物又是什么理性?要求母亲为抚育后代付出一切,继而再填补社保空白,献身养老义务。当这一切贯穿一个女性的一生,成为压倒性的需求,母亲和这些义务的关系,已经成了制度勒索和被勒索者的关系。而亲子亲情名义也掩盖了实际上养育者和被养育者那种动物性的关系。如果众小兽的生命要以母亲被敲骨吸髓来滋养,莫怪母兽之兽性发作。这一点,杨改兰说的是你不理解;杨改兰也没有说服父权神职的能力;正如她也无能给自己一个理由偷生。假如要杨改兰脱出兽性,我们要探寻把杨改兰由人变成母兽的社会原因,这是全文的最终指向。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5000pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0000pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></span></b></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">在我们普通人,什么</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">G20</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 10.5pt;">、奥运之类不过是过眼烟云,而杨改兰杀子灭门却是我们的无法承受之痛。抒情或许可以止痛,但不能改变和阻止悲剧发生。真正的改变之途更不是如盛世蝼蚁一文中所说,固化目前的社会分层,仅仅是再拿出一点浮财为贫民兜底。而只能是根本的制度性改变,是家务劳动薪酬化,养育责任社会化,让母亲有机会成为女人,从人权的角度重新参与到母职中。所以说赋权女性是重要的,女性需要平等机会和权力。杨改兰提供了一个乡村女性能力贫困和权利贫困的样本,她以极端形式对这个忽略贫困女性命运的社会敲响了警钟。</span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">八月中秋,杨改兰一家六口能在阴间团聚吗?阳世里,孩子们躺在杨家老宅后山,孩子们的父亲下葬时,杨家奶奶持刀守门,阻止棺材进入杨家门,只能葬在杨家与李家之间阿姑山村的树林里。杨改兰火化后骨灰被抛洒到临洮的洮河,这是她奶奶户籍消失的地方,也是被称为母亲之河黄河的支流。我仿佛听见凶灵在河上飘荡泣告:救救孩子!救救女人!否则,名为康乐的古县怎能摆脱杨改兰的阴影;而母亲河流过的大地,如何自救族人?</span></span><span style="font-family: "pmingliu"; font-size: 12.0000pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">导演、拍摄、剪辑:胡杰</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">2004年3月8日,在广州中山大学的东湖边,发生了一起恶性约会谋杀案件。针对这一案件引起的校园反应,艾晓明及其团队的师生展开了分析和倡导活动。白丝带,即男性参加反对针对妇女的暴力活动。该片由胡杰拍摄、剪辑;艾晓明工作室制作后送至全国多所高等院校,作为一个项目活动来反对校园里的性别暴力。</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">“阴道独白”是美国女作家伊娃·恩斯勒的作品,演出中文版阴道独白,是当时全球性反对针对妇女暴力的16天运动中的一个活动。中山大学的师生根据原英文版,也做了很多修改,特别是在其中增加了“弃婴”等有中国特点的舞蹈内容。演出获得了积极正面的反响。该片演出由艾晓明导演,胡杰拍摄和剪辑了演出活动。</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">导演:艾晓明</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">拍摄:艾晓明 戴凡</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">2005年7月7日至9日,亚洲首届酷儿研究国际研讨会“性、性别与权利在亚洲”在泰国曼谷召开。大会之后两天,国际资源网络在这里举行了两天的亚洲地区会议。影片记录了这一盛事,呈现了汉语、英语和泰语三种语言进行的五天会议和工作坊里的热烈场景,传达了酷儿研究者和社群的强烈心声:争取人权和学术自由,推动研究和社会运动的持续发展。</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">导演:艾晓明</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">拍摄:艾晓明、谭作人、谢贻卉</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">剪辑:艾晓明、胡杰</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">2008年8月下旬,川震百日祭后,救援部队开始撤出,媒体不再报道校难;成都环保工作者谭作人和志愿者谢貽卉,依然在校难废墟之地奔走,寻找校舍垮塌的原因。 </span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">秋去冬来,谭作人和谢貽卉在主灾区10个县市80多个乡镇跋涉,累计行程3000公里。谭作人被捕后,艾未未团队的志愿者继续前往四川展开调查,而谢貽卉根据谭作人手稿,在5?12周年祭前,公布了调查结果,这是有关川震校难的第一份公民独立调查报告。" </span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<a href="http://dotsub.com/view/d5319827-c51c-4c02-ad82-94731542d48c"><span class="15" style="color: blue; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">http://dotsub.com/view/d5319827-c51c-4c02-ad82-94731542d48c</span></a><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">01 </span><a href="https://vimeo.com/22507314"><span class="15" style="color: blue; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">https://vimeo.com/22507314</span></a><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<a href="http://dotsub.com/view/d5319827-c51c-4c02-ad82-94731542d48c"><span class="15" style="color: blue; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">http://dotsub.com/view/d5319827-c51c-4c02-ad82-94731542d48c</span></a><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">01 公民调查</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<a href="http://vimeo.com/26849481"><span class="15" style="color: blue; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">http://vimeo.com/26849481</span></a><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<a href="https://vimeo.com/26828326"><span class="15" style="color: blue; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">https://vimeo.com/26828326</span></a><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<a href="https://vimeo.com/26826345"><span class="15" style="color: blue; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">https://vimeo.com/26826345</span></a><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">2010年2月9日,谭作人煽动颠覆国家罪案,在成都市中级人民法院开庭审理,拍摄者克服重重困难,记录了判决前后三天的情形,谭作人的朋友、亲人感受如何,律师如何开展工作……</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">田喜回家!</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"> </span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">田喜,23岁,河南新蔡人,因在医院输血而感染艾滋病。田喜在北京的大学毕业,为维权多次上访,2010年8月被当地政府关押。2011年2月11日,田喜父母和感染者朋友得知当天下午开庭判决,田喜将会被释放,他们因此前往法庭迎接田喜。然而……</span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">心灵的牧场:艾晓明访艾未未谈网络、艺术与公民问责 </span><span style="font-family: "宋体"; font-size: 12.0000pt; font-weight: bold; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">各位来宾,非常欢迎大家在这个下午来到新港路的“学而优”,我首先介绍一下今天来的嘉宾,他是台湾非常有名的摇滚与政治评论家——张铁志,他是美国哥伦比亚大学的博士生,他刚才跟我说,特别要注明一下,还没读完。读了七、八年了。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">其实他有两本著作在大陆出版,其中一本叫《声音与愤怒》,那是前两年。这本叫《时代的噪音》,都是讲摇滚乐、社会运动、政治、革命等等这些相关词。所以当我在网上听说铁志要来开这么一个讲座,说实话,我心里有点嘀咕:这个当口儿他来得了吗?可以我到这儿一来发现,好像人真来了,一个也没空,还算是不错。不过刚才由于电闸发生……结果还是空了张椅子……不过大家千万不要瞎联想,这个空椅子和别的没关系。所以有时候我在想,很多时候是不是他们多想,有时候是我们多想了。反正铁志今天来了,我们非常热烈地欢迎他。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">张铁志:各位朋友好,非常感谢“学而优”给我这个机会,让我跟广州的朋友分享这个新书。<personname productid="谢谢平克" w:st="on">谢谢平克</personname>老师,平克是《南方周末》的资深记者,是我最早认识的一批大陆的好朋友。我们曾经同居过一段时间,在北京,住在他们家的时候。那也感谢今天的嘉宾——五条人,我是五条人的忠实粉丝。他们今天能够来演出,真的非常高兴。事实上我们这四个人有一定的关系,去年平克在做《南方周末》<span lang="EN-US">2009</span>年年度原创音乐选的时候,我是评委;我就大力推荐了五条人,因为我觉得五条人非常棒。后来五条人当选,我们觉得非常非常的骄傲,也非常光荣。因为五条人受到这样的肯定,一个来自广东的乐队,能获得《南方周末》当年的年度原创的话。我跟平克都各自、我负责年度的总结,平克写了一段五条人的介绍,所以有这个缘分。今天我不知道大家为什么来啊,是为了五条人还是为了《时代的噪音》……<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">其实音乐可以说是那个时代的原声带,或者说它是扮演一个黏合剂,很多人听到这些音乐,听到鲍勃迪伦(<span lang="EN-US">Bob Dylan</span>)的歌声,开始关心所谓的民权运动,开始关心反战运动。或者有更多的人,因为这些音乐,他们知道在别的地方,在另一个校园,在另一个角落,有人跟他们一样关心这些事情。所以它可以说是黏着或者凝聚了一个世代的青年文化。那这让我有很大的震撼,发现原来我从小喜欢摇滚乐,是有这么一个强大的力量在。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来我在台湾念研究生,就是念政治学,到了研究生继续念政治学,当时念政治学是有一个兴趣,因为台湾当时处于一个后解严时代的一个转型不确定期。台湾从<span lang="EN-US">1987</span>年开始解严,解严就是解除戒严,过去是采用军事戒严的体制。台湾是号称<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪最长的军事戒严体制,从<span lang="EN-US">1949</span>年到<span lang="EN-US">1987</span>年。那民主化之后,民主化初期充满了不确定性,因为不知道民主的方向走向何方。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们知道过去的体制瓦解,但真的不知道下一步在哪里。当时台湾的国会,也就是立法院还没有改选,所谓的总统也还没有直选。所以很多不确定,还有很多威权时代的法令,限制我们的言论自由和集会自由。所以当时念政治学就是很想要知道:怎么去理解或者去研究,世界上最好的政治经济体制是什么?那最可行的体制是什么?关于社会主义、资本主义、民主、独裁这些的辩论,所以觉得很大的兴趣。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我从来没有想过写音乐的东西,自己觉得就是喜欢音乐的东西,听这些东西很棒。然后到了我研究生大概三年级的时候,<span lang="EN-US">1997</span>年吧,当时就有朋友知道我,在媒体的知道我很喜欢音乐,就让我写写看。当研究生时我已经投稿报纸,写一些时评,在《中国时报》上。当时我记得最早开始写的,应该是些埃尔顿·约翰(<span lang="EN-US">Elton John</span>)吧,因为当时戴安娜王妃死了,埃尔顿·约翰做了一首<span lang="EN-US">candle in the wind</span>,重新改歌词做这首歌。所以就发现,写音乐是个蛮有趣的事情。然后再把它跟政治联系在一起是因为<span lang="EN-US">1998</span>年的时候,发生了一个事情。也就是当时英国首相布莱尔<span lang="EN-US">1997</span>年上台,号称新工党路线。到<span lang="EN-US">1998</span>年的时候,我就看英国的音乐杂志,一整期都在批判托尼·布莱尔,而且当时英国最牛的,我们最喜欢的英式摇滚的人。这里如果有乐迷的话,一定听过像什么<span lang="EN-US">Blur</span>(污渍乐队)啊,<span lang="EN-US">Suede</span>(山羊皮乐队)。这些著名的英国乐队,突然都变得很激进,在批评托尼·布莱尔他的政策是多么对不起工人阶级,对不起学生。上礼拜不是英国学生暴动,当时布莱尔也是删减了很多对高等教育的补贴,因为要走向市场化。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得这非常有趣,一方面我对这些政治经济议题很有兴趣。另外一方面因为我是一个乐迷。我想台湾可能没有这方面的介绍,所以就想写一个东西,这是第一篇。然后第二篇也是,因为<span lang="EN-US">1999</span>年的时候,<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>当时开始参与反全球化,或者关于世界贫穷的问题。我觉得很有趣,他参与这些行动,可是大部分中国读者可能不知道,甚至<span lang="EN-US">Radiohead</span>,<span lang="EN-US">Radiohead</span>是这个时代最重要的乐团。他去参与了,<span lang="EN-US">1998</span>年吧,在德国一个反对<span lang="EN-US">G8</span>的一个高峰会。当时我觉得这些都非常有趣,因为这种反抗的行动是我从小就关心的,就像我刚刚说的。那再就是背后所涉及的议题,我觉得非常有趣;再加上自己的音乐理想,所以我想把它写出来。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来就开始有比较,回头去看整个摇滚乐的历史,其实包括刚刚也有记者朋友问我说,为什么要谈这种东西。我会说其实不管任何时代,任何一种文化领域。各位看,音乐也好,电影也好,艺术也好,其实艺术家很多时候都尝试在质问这个时代重大的历史问题,想要去质问这个时代重大的历史矛盾。各位看中国电影,从张艺谋到贾樟柯,我想都是想回答这个社会转型的问题——我是说以前的张艺谋。像得奖,比如说像刚刚的诺贝尔文学奖的得主略萨或尤萨,他一直用作品反抗拉丁美洲的独裁政权。换言之,我觉得这是艺术领域很重要一个传统。当然有的艺术家去质问人性,但很多艺术家想要去质问这个时代的很多问题。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得,摇滚乐特别有这个理想主义的传统也好,或者说跟时代对话的传统也好,我觉得每一个时代重要的音乐人几乎都是这样子的。有些人可能是一时的商业成功,但我们看每个时代,看<span lang="EN-US">1960</span>年代我们谈鲍勃·迪伦(<span lang="EN-US">Bob Dylan</span>),谈约翰·列侬(<span lang="EN-US">John Lenno</span>),<span lang="EN-US">1970</span>年代谈朋克(<span lang="EN-US">Punk</span>),<span lang="EN-US">1980</span>年代到现在,各位要是喜欢摇滚音乐的话,可能知道美国有个最大的摇滚乐队是<span lang="EN-US">R</span>·<span lang="EN-US">E</span>·<span lang="EN-US">M</span>,他当时签华纳的时候,签约金最高。可能在英国爱尔兰的<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>乐队,或者各位喜欢摇滚乐的,这十年来比较有影响力的可能是<span lang="EN-US">Radiohead</span>或者<span lang="EN-US">Coldplay</span>,每一个乐队其实都蛮关心公共事务的。那我觉得他们之所以有这样的影响力,超越一时的商业影响力,也是因为他们抓到了集体的、时代的焦虑或者是时代的想象。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所以我觉得这个脉络是非常有意思的,我才做这样的工作。这不代表我只听这样的音乐,或者只有这样的音乐才是好的。我也听很多失恋听来抚慰心灵的音乐,或者是纯粹拿来<span lang="EN-US">high</span>的音乐,年轻人拿来跳舞的音乐。音乐确实有很多功能,摇滚文化也非常丰富,我觉得只是一方面,这个传统我想把它挖掘出来。这个当然也有我自己专业的关系。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">2002</span><span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">年,我<span lang="EN-US">30</span>岁,到纽约去念政治学博士。本来想出一本书,把自己青春时代的写摇滚的东西告别,同时好好专心做学术,毕竟摇滚属于青春期的冲动。没想到那本书就是刚才平克介绍的《声音与愤怒》,不但不是我摇滚旅程的终结,反而是我写作旅程的开始。在台湾出版之后,获得还不错的反响。当年获得十大好书,很多年轻人开始买这本书,开始有很多媒体邀约。所以就一路写下来,包括写政治、写文化或写音乐的评论。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不过我要说,我常常会很尴尬。常常有人说我是乐评人,我觉得这个名字对我来说很不恰当,因为我很少写碟评或者乐评这样的东西。我只是对摇滚文化或者摇滚跟社会产生兴趣,就像我台湾的另外一个朋友马世芳,我觉得他也不是乐评人,他更多的写一些摇滚的散文。所以我们号称台湾的两大乐评人,其实是非常尴尬的。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这本书就是《声音与愤怒》之后写的,主要是因为《声音与愤怒》出来之后,我觉得自己对于摇滚乐,对于摇滚跟抗议之间,还有太多的不了解,太陌生。所以这本书就是<span lang="EN-US">2006</span>年的时候,在台湾一个比较好的杂志叫《印刻》文学杂志,邀请我写一个专栏。那个时候说实话也蛮高兴、蛮兴奋的,能去到文学杂志写专栏,自己写写音乐就变成到顶级的文学杂志,是有点小小的虚荣的。当时开始写,我决定写人的故事。因为人的故事会更有意思,比如说一个创作者怎么去思考他的时代,或者一个创作者怎么去面临其他的很多诱惑,关于明星、关于虚荣的诱惑……我觉得这都是艺术家面临的重大诱惑。比如说在<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>,在很多乐团身上都看到这样的挣扎、思考。所以就决定写这样一个专栏。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">当然时间不多,我今天想听五条人唱歌,所以今天不会讲很多。这个人叫<span lang="EN-US">Woody Guthrie</span>,他可以说是<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪美国民歌之父,他当时就去各地采集,因为他自己也是一个很辛苦的劳动者,他就到各地去采集人民的歌,并且为他们唱歌。所以我写他的标题是:“唱人民的歌”或者“为人民唱歌”。他后来非常成功,以至于后来美国的国会图书馆都邀请他去录音,录下这些来自各地的歌,因为这些民歌就负载了各地人民的苦痛、愤怒,他们的哀愁。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所以这个是民歌最早的定义。我觉得这个非常重要是因为,要理解鲍勃·迪伦为什么唱抗议歌曲的时候,我觉得<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪上半期美国的民歌跟左翼运动有相当强的连接。尤其在<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪上半期的时候,当时美国是有蛮强大的左翼运动,一直到冷战时期,苏联跟美国对立,在美国所谓的共产党才被连根拔起。就像台湾一样,台湾在<span lang="EN-US">1949</span>年以后跟各位分离,在台湾出现了反共的风潮。当时一样,<span lang="EN-US">1949</span>年以后在美国开始出现了反对共产主义的想法。可以在早期的时候是非常强烈的左翼运动,跟当时的民歌是非常强的……<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">Woody Guthrie</span><span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">做了非常多的公益歌曲,他到处为工人唱歌。有一首歌特别有名,在美国几乎是家喻户晓,每个人都会唱的……《这是你的土地》:<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">this land is your land</span><span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">this land is my land</span><span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这是你的土地,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这是我的土地。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">大家看这个歌歌词很简单,这是你的土地,这是我的土地,从加州到纽约……这首歌一直被误解,在美国很大程度上被误解成爱国歌曲,因为好像在歌颂土地,一种传统的乡土的感情。但实际上这是一首很左翼的歌曲,因为它指的你跟我,就是你跟我,是没权没势的人,是一般的人。他说这个土地是属于你跟我,而不是属于那些有钱的资本家的,我想这首歌现在蛮适合在大陆唱的。我最近在台湾写了篇时评文章,就是用这个做标题,因为台湾今年也出现了严重的拆迁问题,就是怪手直接开到台湾农民的田地去要盖科学园区,我就用这首歌做文章的标题。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">等一下我会放……跟<span lang="EN-US">Woody Guthrie</span>同时的一个人叫<span lang="EN-US">Peter Seeger</span>,这个人的故事也很有趣。他老爸就是美国社会音乐的始祖,开山祖师,也是共产党。他继承了父亲,又关心音乐又是左翼分子……他到哈佛大学念了一年就不念了,开始玩音乐。特别是开始研究斑鸠琴,他认识<span lang="EN-US">Woody Guthrie</span>之后就非常喜欢<span lang="EN-US">Woody Guthrie</span>,因为<span lang="EN-US">Woody Guthrie</span>简直就是我们每个人都向往的一个吟游诗人的形象,抱着吉他在各地流浪,他根本就是属于人民的一部分。这个人是哈佛的学生,不能说是纨绔子弟,是一个出身背景都很好的人。可是他开始跟着<span lang="EN-US">Woody Guthrie</span>一样,在各地采集民歌。而且他们组成的乐团,开始为工人唱歌。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">Peter Seeger</span><span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我自己非常佩服他,我觉得他几乎穿越了整个<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪的斗争。从<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪上半期,我刚才说的美国的左翼运动,到<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪<span lang="EN-US">50</span>年代的麦卡锡白色恐怖,他深受其害,因为他跟共产党关系密切。然后到<span lang="EN-US">1960</span>年代,因为麦卡锡主义,他不能上媒体,成为一个敏感词。但这个敏感词,他更积极地参加草根的民权运动跟反战运动。到<span lang="EN-US">1970</span>年代以后,他回到家乡,在纽约的上州,开始参与当地的环保运动。过去几年,在<span lang="EN-US">2000</span>年,小布什上台,他出来跟年轻的乐队,大家可能喜欢的<span lang="EN-US">Sonic Youth</span>一起办反战演唱会。非常牛的老头,去年<span lang="EN-US">90</span>岁,还在不断地唱歌,一直不断地反抗。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我书里面写的故事,也是我在《纽约客》里面看到的故事,我看到这个故事的时候,说实话,也在掉眼泪。各位可能看过这个书,知道这个故事。就是有一个人的朋友在雨天的时候,开车,下雨,各位知道纽约的郊区是很空寂的,就看到前面一个人怪怪的,举着一个什么东西,看不出来。车开更近的时候他看见那个人举着的牌子写着<span lang="EN-US">stop war</span>,停止战争,但一个人站在那边,所有的车从他旁边开过。那是一个下雨的夜晚,当他的车开得更近的时候,他发现是<span lang="EN-US">Peter Seeger</span>这个八十几岁的老先生。以他的名声,他大可以通知媒体,但他仍然有自己的坚持,每个月要去那边站几天,举起自己的牌子,告诉大家,要反对战争,反对伊拉克战争。几十年来,他都是这样一个坚持的人,我自己非常佩服。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他有一首歌,可以说是<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪一个非常重要的抗争歌曲,叫<span lang="EN-US"> we shall overcome</span>,我们一定会胜利。这首歌本来是一首典型的民歌,不可考,不知道谁做的。只知道<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪上半期的时候,在南方的黑人周末到讲堂唱的歌,因为平常工作很辛苦,被压榨,所以他们周日到教堂唱这首歌,我们一定会胜利,一定会克服。后来到<span lang="EN-US">1940</span>年代有一天,在一个罢工场合,一群烟草厂的女工出来罢工,这个时候突然天降大雨。这不是我讲得戏剧性,而是我看到故事本身很夸张,太戏剧性了。一群女工手牵着手围着,天下大雨,就有一个女工突然唱起了这首歌,<span lang="EN-US">we shall overcome</span>,我们一定会克服,这首歌就突然成为一首……你们知道教堂的那种励志歌曲,变成一首集体抗争的歌曲。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">然后<span lang="EN-US">1950</span>年代开始南方民权运动开始的时候,各位都知道民权运动吧,我不需要多加介绍,书里面写了一些。因为我个人非常喜欢民权运动的历史,我觉得那是<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪很重要的一个少数人对抗不公平的权力,然后争取到权力,最后获得胜利,非常有启发性。这么多黑人被压迫,通过一个非暴力的方式,获得了,起码获得了一些表面的权力。虽然美国到现在黑白种族问题还是很严重,还是不平等。但这首歌,<span lang="EN-US">we shall overcome</span>,<span lang="EN-US">Peter Seeger</span>就到处在很多地方教唱,这首歌非常适合现场唱。各位等一下我们一句一句来教唱一下,因为这首歌唱的时候你会起鸡皮疙瘩,你会有一种越来越鼓舞人的感觉。我在台湾的街头教年轻人唱过。这首歌被翻译成各国语言的版本,在<span lang="EN-US">1980</span>年的韩国光州事件唱过,在拉丁美洲的反独裁唱过,因为旋律很好听,歌词又很简单。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">接下来鲍勃·迪伦(<span lang="EN-US">Bob Dylan</span>)我想我就不多讲,因为我想这边叙述都很多,既有的书写都很多。我想讲一个事情,就是我这个书其实是想处理一个小小的问题。鲍勃·迪伦(<span lang="EN-US">Bob Dylan</span>)大家都知道,他是一个抗议歌手的代名词、代言人。但他其实不是一个真正的抗议歌手,他只有前几年的时候,写了很多关于时事的歌曲。但是到<span lang="EN-US">1964</span>年的时候,开始逐渐告别革命,开始不唱这些歌了,开始转向自己内心或者音乐从民谣转向摇滚。大家都很熟悉这个故事,我其实只是想问为什么。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来我发现,所以我说,其实整个<span lang="EN-US">1960</span>年代初期的民谣气氛其实是跟社会运动结合在一起的。因为整个<span lang="EN-US">20</span>世纪的上半叶,民歌跟左翼运动其实是结合紧密的。那我觉得鲍勃·迪伦(<span lang="EN-US">Bob Dylan</span>)作为一个刚进入民谣的人,他非常崇拜<span lang="EN-US">Woody Guthrie</span>。大家知道,他甚至第一张专辑就写了一首歌叫<span lang="EN-US">song to Woody </span>,给伍迪的歌。他到纽约来,就是为了寻找<span lang="EN-US">Woody Guthrie</span>的踪影;当时<span lang="EN-US">Woody Guthrie</span>已经病重在医院了,鲍勃·迪伦(<span lang="EN-US">Bob Dylan</span>)就去医院唱歌给他听。所以我觉得鲍勃迪伦(<span lang="EN-US">Bob Dylan</span>)作为一个年轻的、学习民谣技艺的人,他当然很受那种传统的影响。所以他早期写了很多关于正在发生的、正在燃烧的一些种族的议题,或者反战的议题。我觉得他可能很快就发现,那不是他自己真正有兴趣的议题。这是一个有趣的事情,对于鲍勃·迪伦(<span lang="EN-US">Bob Dylan</span>)我就不多讲,对我来说,他真的是一个天才。我想讲约翰·列侬(<span lang="EN-US">John Lennon</span>)。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为刚刚过他<span lang="EN-US">30</span>周年的忌日,而且我觉得列侬的例子实在是一个非常有趣的例子。大家都知道,在<span lang="EN-US">1968</span>年的时候,他写了首歌叫《革命》,后来他成为了国家的敌人,这五个字应该不是敏感词。<span lang="EN-US">1968</span>年的时候,这就是我这个书的命题,我觉得很有趣,一个时代的变迁,艺术家怎么去反思这个问题。所以当时我想,<span lang="EN-US">1968</span>是一个多么风云动荡的年代。大家知道,在美国或者在法国巴黎的学生大革命,大家知道布拉格之春;在日本,<span lang="EN-US">1968</span>年是一个非常迷幻的年代,各种事情都在发生。我就好奇,那当时最大的两个乐队<span lang="EN-US">Beatles</span>(披头士乐队)跟<span lang="EN-US"> Rolling Stones</span>(滚石乐队)会怎么面对这个事情呢?结果果然他们都有各自不同的面对方式。我在书里面写了的一章专门来谈这个问题,我觉得非常有趣。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">比如说,当时的披头士,是约翰·列侬写了一首歌,叫<span lang="EN-US">revolution</span>。他当时一开始看到街头这么多暴力冲动,他是质疑这样的事情的。所以歌词当中说:<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你告诉我这是一场革命,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你知道我们都想改变世界,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但你想要谈到破坏时,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你不能把我算进去……<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为他是反对暴力的,他当时其实还是一个嬉皮。他们前一年还做了一首歌,叫<span lang="EN-US">All You Need Is Love</span>,你所需要的是爱。大家都知道嬉皮运动就是在<span lang="EN-US">1967</span>年最盛行,所以当时列侬还是一个充满爱的嬉皮,爱才是解放的目标。所以下一句很好,他说:<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你说你要改变体制,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你知道我们都想改变你的头脑,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你告诉我关键的是制度,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但你知道,你最好解放你自己的心灵……<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">其实对他来说,改变种种都没有用,最重要的是改变心灵。这个当时我觉得美国主要是两大派,嬉皮当然关心的是心灵,另一派左派可能觉得制度更重要。当时列侬站在心灵这一派,最后两句话跟大家比较有关的:“如果你要带着毛主席的照片上街头,无论如何你是不会成功的”。大家知道在西方的左派是非常崇拜文化大革命的,手上拿着毛主席语录,仿佛觉得自己是西方的红卫兵。所以他质疑这样的街头暴力的倾向。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外一个乐队,滚石乐队,我刚刚说到,滚石乐队的米克·贾格尔(<span lang="EN-US">Mick Jagger)</span>参与了当时伦敦的反美游行。他看到在海峡的一边,巴黎的学生革命,所以他写下一首歌叫<span lang="EN-US">Street Fighting Man</span>,街头斗士,那一首歌从前奏听起来就非常像是一首战歌,非常的好听。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">1968</span><span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">年的时候,英国的左派知识分子真的非常认真地讨论摇滚乐有没有可能作为革命的力量。所以他们看到米克·贾格尔的歌词<span lang="EN-US">Street Fighting Man</span>,觉得非常兴奋。然后他们在那一期,就登了米克·贾格尔的歌词,还登了另外一个是恩格斯的《谈街头运动》。我觉得太牛逼了,一个恩格斯跟米克·贾格尔放在一起。而且他们另外写一篇文章批判约翰·列侬,说你背叛无产阶级,因为你不赞同我们的革命,你批判暴力。那这个语言大家都很熟悉,我觉得更有意思的是约翰·列侬后来自己写了一篇文章回应,这个在我书里面都翻译出来了,这篇文章。他们就辩论到底改革、改变世界到底什么最重要。我觉得那篇文章非常有意思,但更有意思的是说,历史在这边走了非常不同的两条道路。当时被视为,被左派视为政治英雄的滚石乐队,他其实也就做了这么一首政治歌曲,之后就再也没有做了,继续去做他们的摇滚政治明星。当然他们在摇滚乐上确实是一个非常棒的乐队,然后就慢慢变明星,然后就变恐龙,到<span lang="EN-US">1980</span>年代之后,没有再多大的太兴奋的音乐。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">可是约翰·列侬<span lang="EN-US">1968</span>年之后就变得不一样了,就和一个女人,他认识一个很棒的女人叫洋子,小野洋子。小野洋子也一样,就跟鲍勃·迪伦一样,所以我觉得选择另一半蛮重要的。他认识小野洋子之后就变得更积极,因为小野洋子比他更聪明,是一个前卫艺术家,而且更关心政治。所以那一年开始,他开始更积极地涉入反战运动,他当时是很反对这类事情的。包括他们……大家知道的照片……他们去阿姆斯特丹度蜜月,在床上,施行了床上静坐的行动。做了歌曲,<span lang="EN-US">Give peace a chance </span>《给和平一次机会》之类的,也参与了实际的街头运动。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到<span lang="EN-US">1970</span>年他搬到美国去,因为小野洋子,他开始跟一些左派,包括当时美国的黑豹党、新左派、艾伦·金斯堡这些人开始混在一起。他们想要掀起反文化的力量,去震撼政权。因为当时在美国,<span lang="EN-US">1972</span>年是尼克森……尼克松……我知道大陆的翻译……要竞选连任总统。因为那一年美国要改变选举制度,从<span lang="EN-US">20</span>岁降到<span lang="EN-US">18</span>岁,也就是说会多出几百万个年轻选民,所以约翰·列侬的影响力是非常大的。于是尼克松就害怕了,当时有参议员就跟当时<span lang="EN-US">FBI</span>胡佛,调查局长胡佛就说,这家伙是涉嫌煽动颠覆国家政权。毫无疑问,约翰·列侬,所以当时就把他驱逐出境。那从此,因为约翰·列侬当时在英国因为持有大麻被捕的例子,所以就开始,列侬开始跟这个国家打了持续<span lang="EN-US">4</span>年的官司,到<span lang="EN-US">1979</span>年才赢。大家知道,赢了之后他也没有快乐很久,在三十年前的<span lang="EN-US">12</span>月,他被枪杀。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我记得几年前读到这个例子的时候觉得蛮夸张的,一个民主国家,会把国际巨星当做敌人要驱逐出境,这个当然是非常难以想象的事情。我自己也很喜欢,我这里面写到一句话,我觉得也是约翰·列侬非常重要的一句话。约翰·列侬是<span lang="EN-US">1960</span>年代反文化的非常重要的代表人物,大家知道<span lang="EN-US">60</span>年代结束了,其实好像没有换来多少东西。好像<span lang="EN-US">60</span>年代没有沉淀下来太多,所以在<span lang="EN-US">1970</span>年,约翰·列侬到美国的时候,他参加一场演唱会,他就说了,他说:<span lang="EN-US">60</span>年代的花枝力量……就是<span lang="EN-US">flower power</span>,就是嬉皮的东西,花枝力量失败了;那又怎么样,<span lang="EN-US">so what</span>, 我们重来一遍就是了。我觉得这个东西是非常牛逼的一个态度,就是说上一场、<span lang="EN-US">60</span>年代那些想象、那些梦想失败了,那又怎么样呢?在这个十年的开端,我们重新再来一遍就是了。当然我刚刚也说了,虽然要重新再来一遍,但是他撞墙了,撞到了尼克松政府。在<span lang="EN-US">1980</span>年代,他并没有机会实行下一个十年了,这是非常遗憾的。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个是我很爱的一个女人,叫帕蒂·史密斯(<span lang="EN-US">Patti Smith</span>),而且我很高兴她的新书,大家知道她的新书明年应该就会在“学而优“出现了。她的自传<span lang="EN-US">Just Kids</span>今年获得了美国图书奖非虚构类的得主。不知道是不是广西师大要出,台湾也会出中文版。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在摇滚乐之前,几乎没有这样一个形象,可能只有<span lang="EN-US">Jefferson Airplane</span>是比较凶悍的这样一个女子的形象,她就为女性开启一种新的可能。那我自己今年读到一个新的资料,我更想要在这里跟大家分享。她说她一开始进入音乐的时候是以一种政治的角度进入的,这种政治不是狭义的政治,政治是说,如何影响年轻人的心灵。我觉得这个是说我们对摇滚乐的期待,都在她身上表现出来了。<span lang="EN-US">1960</span>年代的时候,我们有肯尼迪总统,有鲍勃·迪伦,有滚石,是一个兴奋的年代。<span lang="EN-US">1970</span>年代开始,一切都变得保守了。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她是<span lang="EN-US">1975</span>年开始进入摇滚乐的。她希望打开年轻人的心灵,她希望美国保守的<span lang="EN-US">1970</span>年代能够开启新的可能,让同志同性恋、让小偷、让黑人、让各种怪人有一个空间。我觉得某一个程度,你不能说她没有做到。大家都知道在七十年代中期,因为她还有其他一些摇滚人,“雷蒙斯”<span lang="EN-US">(The Ramones),</span>“传声头像<span lang="EN-US">" (The Talking Heads)</span>这些,确实打开了美国音乐一个新的空间,而且这个朋克运动流到英国,形成了英国的朋克运动。所以他们确实打开了新的可能,包括后来的音速青春(<span lang="EN-US">Sonic Youth</span>)这些乐团都是受他们影响。所以在美国七十年代后期,整个音乐文化都是非常丰富的。包括<span lang="EN-US">No Wave</span>这些实验噪音运动的出现。到八十年代的时候,<span lang="EN-US">1980</span>年代她退隐江湖,跑去结婚生子,在密歇根。她说,本来我进入摇滚乐就不是为了成名,不是为了当明星,我是为了打开这个空间,现在我的任务结束了,所以她觉得我可以退隐了。而且她觉得,我没有太多的话要说。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我自己非常欣赏她这个态度,我觉得她到现在都还是一个蛮坚持朋克精神的一个人。怎么说呢,什么叫朋克。我觉得朋克当时的一个重点就是说,把音乐的诠释权重新夺回到人民身上。摇滚乐到六十年代后期,发展得越来越庞大了。这个大家很熟悉,好像就是说,要上很大的地方,体育馆,一定要技术很牛逼才能玩摇滚乐。而朋克打破了这种东西,希望把音乐重新从商业机器中夺回来,夺到人民的手中。我过去,<span lang="EN-US">2006</span>年去纽约,五年,我看了五次<span lang="EN-US">Patti Smith</span>的演出,因为真的很便宜。她已经是一个这么传奇的人物,都还有这么便宜的演出。有一次在我们学校,哥大,表演,她跟他长期的伙伴莱尼·凯(<span lang="EN-US">Lenny Kaye</span>)一起表演。她出一本诗集,只要<span lang="EN-US">7</span>块钱美金,我觉得真的是很划算。<span lang="EN-US">7</span>块钱,这么一个传奇的人物。然后又一次,她出专辑叫<span lang="EN-US">Twelve</span>,十二,大家知道这张专辑,她在里面有翻唱涅槃的歌。出这张专辑,办发片演唱会,<span lang="EN-US">15</span>块美金;而且还送专辑。不过当然了,因为是发片,她只唱了<span lang="EN-US">3</span>首歌,是一个很短的<span lang="EN-US">set</span>,当然我也觉得也很值回票价了。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">更何况还有这个……这是我,这是追星族,这是小时候。可是我印象中是,不知道盗版碟有没有卖,她的一部纪录片,有卖吗?叫<span lang="EN-US">Dream of Life</span>,这是<span lang="EN-US">Patti Smith</span>去年的一部纪录片,前年吧。台湾金马奖也有演,那个纪录片拍得非常的诗意。这部纪录片在纽约演的时候,是在一个艺术电影院,很小。在那里演出的时候,她每一场都出席映后座谈,跟导演在现场聊天。因为这个戏院很小,宽度跟这个大概差不多。演完之后,我就去买咖啡。她也突然出现在我旁边买咖啡。这种巨星不是应该躲起来,或者旁边有保镖之类的吗。她竟然在我旁边买咖啡,我想不能错过,还是很害羞地上去,追星一下,跟她拍了这张照片。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个<span lang="EN-US">The Clash</span>,朋克乐队,我想也写得蛮多,我也不再多介绍了。我只想讲几句话,就是我自己写的几句话。我觉得这个话还蛮好的。我比较这个<span lang="EN-US">The Clash</span>冲击乐队跟性手枪<span lang="EN-US">Sex Pistol</span>。我说,如果性手枪是要拆解摇滚乐的神话,冲击乐队则是要改变摇滚乐,它成为一个重要的乐队。如果性手枪是无政府主义似的发泄年轻人的不满,冲击乐队则写下一篇篇激进的政治宣言。他们批判腐败的国家机器、社会贫富不均、青年失业,以及种族不平等问题。如果说性手枪是个人式的与虚无,是要摧毁体制,冲击乐队则要人们团结起来,要在破坏之后重建。然后那个主唱叫<span lang="EN-US">Joe Strummer</span>,叫做乔。乔说,他们不是无政府主义,也不相信无秩序,而是希望人们知道自己的权利。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这是他们的一首歌,叫<span lang="EN-US">Know Your Right</span>,知道自己的权利。并争取自己的<span lang="EN-US">power</span>,另外一个权力。他说,朋克音乐本质上就应该是抗议音乐,就是一种社会运动。他说我们试图做出我们认为对这个时代重要的政治工作,也希望这些工作能够进一步启发更多的世代。同样,我觉得这个<span lang="EN-US">Know Your Right</span>这个歌也蛮适合放在现在的中国大陆的。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">最后,讲大家都很熟悉的。讲了这么多古老的,终于到最贴近的<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>了。我觉得<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>很有意思的,很值得做一个分析。他们大概曾经三十年……我写这个文章的时候就是许知远那个《单向街》杂志邀我,就是前年吧。就是因为<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>三十年,写<span lang="EN-US">U2 </span>三十年的音乐与政治。他们三十年来的确都在思考他们那个时代最重大的问题。八十年代他们刚出道的时候,他们作为爱尔兰的乐队,关注北爱尔兰的问题,关注波兰团结工联的问题。然后到八十年中期,<span lang="EN-US">1986</span>年,最有名的专辑《约书亚树》(<span lang="EN-US">The Joshua Tree</span>),他们开始关注美国在中南美洲的外交政策的问题。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">其实当时我小时候听这个音乐的时候,我并没有这样的质疑。我不知道大家怎么看,因为《约书亚树》太多有名的歌曲,<span lang="EN-US">With or Without You</span>,这些超级摇滚金曲,这张专辑也有一些比较不出名的歌曲,是讨论,是他自己去了尼加拉瓜、萨尔瓦多,他看到当时的人权问题,以及美国如何扶持当地的右翼政权,造成了很多问题。因为他当时是跟大赦国际合作,因为<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>当时刚刚跟大赦国际合作,<span lang="EN-US">Amnesty International</span>,在美国做一个巡回演出。后来他去了,看到当地,美国如何破坏人权问题。到<span lang="EN-US">1990</span>年他做了很多歌,关于两德统一的,<span lang="EN-US">2001</span>年送给昂山素姬的,<span lang="EN-US">Walk On</span>。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">过去十年,差不多从<span lang="EN-US">1999</span>年一直到现在,摇滚史上,可能从来没有人比<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>的<span lang="EN-US">Bono</span>,有这么强的政治影响力。他参与各种,比如达沃斯的座谈,世界经济论坛。然后跟从克林顿,到小布什,到教宗,跟所有的人去游说,让他们去解决非洲的贫穷问题。这个我在书里面做了比较详细的分析。可是有趣的是什么,我发现,有趣的是,过去十年,当他的身影在政治舞台上无比巨大的时候,他却没有写这些歌曲。他说,我当然知道,拿着一个汽油弹在街头点火的形象会比拿着一个公事包,里面装着各种政策性的文件,更<span lang="EN-US">sexy</span>,更性感。但是他觉得政策性的游说还是一个更重要的事情。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">其实我在书里面讨论了他说的是不是合理。甚至于说很巧的是,我在<span lang="EN-US">04</span>年出版《声音与愤怒》的时候,当时括了他一句话。当时他接受《时代》杂志访问,他说他慢慢开始不相信,在大型的体育馆里面办演唱会,会比去从事政治游说更重要的工作。他说他开始不相信这些事情了。所以当时非洲贫穷问题,他没有去办什么演唱会。我这个书<span lang="EN-US">2004</span>年出版之后,<span lang="EN-US">2005</span>年,大家知道他们办了超级大型的演唱会。<span lang="EN-US">2005</span>年当时有一个八大国家的高峰会<span lang="EN-US">G8</span>在苏格兰举行,那年的一个重要议题就是非洲贫穷的问题,非洲发展的问题。当时他们就在西方办了<span lang="EN-US">6</span>场演唱会。同时办,取名叫<span lang="EN-US">Live Eight</span>。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">比如说我写到布鲁斯•斯普林汀(<span lang="EN-US">Bruce Springteen</span>),斯普林汀早期写了非常多关于劳工的歌曲。但是现在他已经是美国的超级大巨星了。他的演唱会是两秒钟之内就会卖完。我们台湾讲叫秒杀,我不知道大陆是不是这样讲。我从来没有看过他的演唱会,因为都是秒杀。就是两秒钟就杀光了,没票了。大陆有没有这样讲?这个台湾名词可以学一下,很好玩。可是我说了,斯普林汀不是一个像<span lang="EN-US">Peter Seeger</span>或者我刚刚有一个图片的<span lang="EN-US">Billy Bragg</span>,一个英国的社会主义歌手,他们不是像他一样,是一个<span lang="EN-US">Activist</span>,不是一个运动者,或者鲍勃·迪伦。但我觉得又何妨,因为布鲁斯•斯普林汀以他是一个超级巨星的位置,只要他仍然愿意写出社会关怀的歌,他是一个公民嘛,我觉得这个公民的角色他就扮演得很好。我不要期待每一个都是投入运动者。就像我刚才说的鲍勃·迪伦或者周云蓬,其实每一个人都有他不同的关怀。我也许喜欢抒情的诗,我也许喜欢讨论爱情,就像周云蓬,听说最近在《城市画报》开爱情专栏,蛮好看的,因为老周是非常幽默的人。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你到现在,各位有机会看到<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>的演唱会的话,还是非常牛逼的演唱会。非常高级的声光效果,可是他还是有很多方法,非常煽情的,去传递他所要传递的政治信息跟社会信息。那我最喜欢讲的一个,放的一个视频,在大陆不能放。在台湾我都会放的一个<span lang="EN-US">Youtube</span>的片段,其实没什么。就是<span lang="EN-US">1986</span>年的时候,<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>写一首歌,叫做<span lang="EN-US">Mother of the Disappeared</span>,消失者的母亲。谁是消失者就?就是当年在独裁政权体制下<span lang="EN-US">,</span>有很多阿根廷、智利的这些人被逮捕,被绑架、消失。后来这些人的母亲站出来,组成一个广场母亲的团体,所以说<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>他们写了这首歌。<span lang="EN-US">1998</span>年的时候,<span lang="EN-US">U2</span>乐团到圣地亚哥办演唱会,那个视频在<span lang="EN-US">Youtube</span>上有,我昨天晚上找了,在优酷网和土豆网上没有。他唱这首歌的时候,他就把这些母亲一一叫上台。这些母亲就举着他们孩子的牌子,一个一个念着他们孩子的名字,然后他们开始唱这首歌。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从我们的身边被带走,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">听见他们的心跳。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们的儿子赤裸的站在墙边,<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们的女儿在哭泣,她们在雨中垂泪。<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">然后他跟着唱了这首歌,就是<span lang="EN-US">Mother of the Disappeared</span>,这个,说实话,我也是意有所指的,当然另外一群母亲也是一样。最后,我想放一首歌,作为今天这个报告的结尾……<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: navy; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">片尾<span lang="EN-US">U2 </span>演唱视频:消失者的母亲<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: navy; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 16pt;">Midnight, our sons and daughters</span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: navy; font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 16pt;">Were cut down and taken from us</span></div>
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wawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17266556312717223286noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049780900640330177.post-12769676112148181902015-12-12T23:47:00.002-08:002015-12-12T23:47:31.545-08:00艾晓明纪录片:让阳光洒到地上(中文稿第一部分)<center style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">
<b>艾晓明纪录片:让阳光洒到地上(中文稿第一部分)</b></center>
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<b><br /></b><span style="color: #000fc0;"><small>(北京时间2011年8月30日 )</small></span></center>
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<span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">来源:参与 作者:艾晓明 </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> (参与2011年8月29日讯)</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 让阳光洒到地上</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿(中文稿第一部分)</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 2011年8月24日</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 让阳光洒到地上</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china1.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 插图:00</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 片长:58分 ·彩色· 中文字幕· 2011年8月25日</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 播放列表:http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL97D4A425A0CECFE0</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 内容简介:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 王荔蕻,北京网友、公民记者和公益服务志愿者。王大姐因声援福建三网民而被控“寻衅滋事”。2011年8月12日,此案在北京市朝阳区人民法院温榆河法庭第一次开庭审理。本片采访了王荔蕻的亲人、朋友、辩护律师和声援网友,记录了现场围观的历史性场景。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 片名来自一首民歌,它象征了本片主人公和更多公民的努力,象征了一个新的世代到来。公平正义应该比太阳更光辉,但它必须从地上开始生长。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 本片送给北京市朝阳区人民法院以及王荔蕻“寻衅滋事”案审判庭的所有成员,你们对公民王荔蕻的裁决将载入史册。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 作者:艾晓明</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 片名:让阳光洒到地上</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 音乐旋律:《地层下的一点光》</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 王荔蕻 </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 北京人现年56岁</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 公民记者博客作者</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; 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line-height: 24px;">探望访民</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">帮助贵州青年小张募款治疗</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">录像资料:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">2010年4月16日</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">福建三网民案开庭现场</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">王荔蕻洪亮的声音:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">游精佑,无罪!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">吴华英,无罪!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">范燕琼,无罪!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我们爱你们!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我们支持你们!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">言论无罪!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">自由万岁!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">王荔蕻声音继续:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">公平正义,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">比太阳还要光辉!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">北京市朝阳区人民检察院起诉书</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">京朝检刑诉[2011]1383号</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">本院认为,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">被告人王荔蕻无视国法,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">在公共场所起哄闹事,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">造成公共秩序严重混乱,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">其行为触犯了《中华人民共和国刑法》</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">第二百九十三条第(四)项之规定,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">犯罪事实清楚,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">证据确实充分,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">应当以寻衅滋事罪追究其刑事责任。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">根据《中华人民共和国刑事诉讼法》</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">第一百四十一条的规定,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">提起公诉,请依法判决。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">随案附送:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">……光盘(4·16现场录像 福州警方提供)贰张</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">2011年8月11日</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">王荔蕻“寻衅滋事案”开庭前一日</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">北京 朝阳区看守所门外</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">拍摄者:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">王大姐她们房子就是这样的房子?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">在这里头。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">就在这里面像宿舍楼一样的?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">云南网友朱承志:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">反正就过来表示一下吧,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">给她存个一百块钱两百块钱,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">02 云南网友老朱</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我和王荔蕻</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">在4·16是并肩站在最前面,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">如果说王荔蕻有罪,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我也同样有罪。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">在关注王荔蕻这件事情上,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我也一直站在前列。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">游精佑也是买了今天的飞机票,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">今天也会赶来北京。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">通向看守所的小路上</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">03 王荔蕻之子齐健祥在通往看守所的路上</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">王荔蕻之子 齐健翔:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">朱老师!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我没看见你。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐啊,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这么一个小帅哥!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">04 老朱见到小齐</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">老朱:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我们呢,希望是这么说,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">希望明天荔蕻和我一起回云南</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我就最高兴了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">不让回去,回我们家。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">老朱:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">那我就和你争啊。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">何杨老师呢?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">在前面。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐接受香港NOW新闻台采访:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">记者:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">你妈妈,我们之前都不是太认识。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她只是一个普通的家庭主妇,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">现在当局以一个“寻衅滋事”的罪名</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">来控告她,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">感觉怎么样你作为儿子?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她是为了帮助别人</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">而被治这个罪说明她是</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这是政治罪名。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">因为现在很多维权律师</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">维权人士都被打压。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">而我妈是其中一个。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这反映了中国现在的政治现状就是如此。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">精神上,她倒是有心理准备。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">因为她对这个现实认识得非常清楚。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她不会抱什么一些不切实际的期望。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她是以身作则推动这个社会的进步。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">不期望当局良心发现。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">明天你几点到法庭?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">明天,8点。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">明天见,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">谢谢!</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">街头车景</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">拿走了什么东西抄走了什么?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">抄走了一些光盘,4·16的光盘</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">还有那个胸卡。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">就是三网友的头像,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">写着温家宝的“公平正义比太阳还要有光辉”</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐在北京维权志愿者野靖环野靖春姐妹家。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">05 在野靖环大姐家的交流</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">那次就有警察来说</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">走,穿衣服。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">然后我妈说去哪儿?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">说有领导要见你。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我妈说我腰不好,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他想见我让他来见我。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">然后就非常强硬就不去。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">后来他们也没办法,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">本来是非常强硬让我妈去的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">包括何杨也被找,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">也是让他去见所谓的某领导。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">据说是,那块换班的小民警说,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">哇,从来没见过那么大的领导出现。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">可能也是得罪他们了吧。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">野靖环野靖春姐妹和小齐聊天:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">野靖环:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">那年把我抓进去的时候,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我儿子也是二十来岁,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她第一次抓的时候她儿子才九岁。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我1998年被抓的时候我儿子</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">还不到二十岁,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我儿子是1981年的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">才十几岁,上学什么的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我就说你这二十多岁,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">你心里头是怎么个感觉呢?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">你妈被抓?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">你说你是……</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">因为我儿子啊。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">您先说您儿子当初是……</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我儿子不跟我详细聊这个,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">但是茉莉花那个行动开始,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">茉莉花之前,2月16号,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">唐吉田被抓,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我说,可能啊,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我这儿要有危险了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我说最近大批地抓人,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">都是莫名其妙地就失踪了,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">都不让家里联系,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我说你做好准备吧。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">哎呦我这么一说,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我儿子就跟我急了,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他就说,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">你都想不到他说什么。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我是没想到他说这个话。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他说的,那我跟你说啊,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">你要再进去的话,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我可能就活不了啦。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">06 野大姐的回忆</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我儿子都三十了,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他居然跟我说这种话。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我说为什么?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他说的,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">你知道你一个人进去,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">全家人的心是什么感觉吗?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他说那根本没法承受的感觉。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他说我就是硬撑着。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我就是硬挺着,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">才熬过来的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我儿子跟我说这个话。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">当时我那心里头,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">难受得不得了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我觉得,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我们娘俩是那种,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">革命母子。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">野靖环:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">太好了,这句话说得。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">高度概括,也就是这意思吧。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我也看过好多历史,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">就是建国以来中共的这些历史。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">那时候,三年大饥荒的时候</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">易子而食那时候。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">吃不下去,换儿子吃。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">吃自己亲人。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">还有老爹把自己孩子吃完就疯了那种。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">那是人间炼狱啊。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">说实在的,这点苦,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">当然可能有点狼心狗肺</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这话儿子来说。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我觉得确实比那时候还是好多了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">比革命年代时好多了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">其实大家需要更勇敢一些。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">如果大家更勇敢一些,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我妈现在进去都不用进去了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">大家都往前站一步,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他们就往后退一步。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">都不往前走,就一个人往前站,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">那自然就进去了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">有很多人说废话是不对,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">中国就这样!没办法。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">很多人就一说就拿这理由来说。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我觉得首先我活着我是自由的,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我的心灵都是自由的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">至少我让我身边的周围的气场是自由的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">大环境怎么样我先不说,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我先把自己活自由了,活民主了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">如果所有人都把自己活民主了,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">那这个国家自然就改变了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">你体制爱怎么样怎么样,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">老百姓就这样,老百姓就这么牛逼。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">野靖春:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">就不服。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">野靖环:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">希望王荔蕻能够扛得住。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">能熬过这一关。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">推友天天(朝鲜族):</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">今年3月份抓起来之前,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">Skype 里,我跟她走得那么近,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她都很不好意思地说:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我想,我想,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我说您想什么您说吧,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她说,我想吃紫菜包饭。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她就很不好意思地说……</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">有时候挺可爱的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">真的就是家里有一个宝嘛。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">所以,她被抓了以后,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">对我打击,确实挺大的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">餐厅。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐听王荔蕻的辩护律师之一</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">刘晓原律师谈情况</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">刘晓原:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这些记者跟我都是非常熟的,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">至今他们都没有回复我。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">昨天我发了三十多封,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">法治周末、新京报、</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">07 和刘晓原律师交谈</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">采访:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">刘律师您怎么解释这个事,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">原来他们关注过三网民,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">但是现在他们却没有关注王荔蕻。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">刘晓原:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这事很奇怪的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">因为当时三网民案的时候,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">国内有很多媒体关注。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">当时三网民案是因为</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">严晓玲死亡,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">后来严晓玲的母亲对公安机关</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">做出的死亡鉴定结论不认可,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">因此她就上访,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">三网民帮她在网上发帖。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">所以引起这么多关注。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他们,当时网民会关注,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">包括媒体会关注它,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">把它作为一个网民在网上</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">发帖发视频被抓,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">看成一个普通案件,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我们从证据上来看,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">他正式对王荔蕻进行调查</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">是去年11月16号开始,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">当然一直调查到今年3月</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">才把她刑事拘留。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我想王大姐原来还关注过</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">其他一些社会事件,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">包括刘晓波那个事。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">因为刘晓波去年10月8号</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">获得诺贝尔和平奖,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她和一些人到了北京的地坛公园,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">也拉了一条横幅,庆祝一下,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">那么就被拘留了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">会不会是因为她的这个行为,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">使大家感觉,现在王大姐的案子,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">有一点,感觉很敏感。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">所以现在国内媒体记者</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">不敢去介入。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">事实上我认识很多媒体记者,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我也谈过。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">北京市公安局 朝阳分局</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">逮捕通知书</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">08 逮捕通知书</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我应该是会见了</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">到昨天是会见了四次吧。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">去了五六次</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">特别是前几次,是不让见的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">应该会见了四次。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">王大姐应该说,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她是个非常坚强的人。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">公安机关一直在问,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">围观还有谁是组织者,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">让人感觉非常敬佩的是,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">始终把这个案件,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">一个人扛下来了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她不愿意其他人受到任何伤害。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">本来知道我介入这个案件,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">有关部门是不希望</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">认为我和这个案件是有关的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">当时我也提出来了,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我说没有关。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我是三网民的辩护律师,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">并且我也没有加入关注团。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">很多事情都是这样嘛,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">先是跟踪,软禁,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">最后就是拘留。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">拘留再不听,你还惹事,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">进去嘛。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">夜幕下的北京</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">水立方蓝光荧荧</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">在王荔蕻的书房</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">荔蕻当时就是从这个房间里被带走的?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">09 书房的电脑椅上披着大姐的棉衣</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">没有,就在这儿,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">进来她就从那儿出来,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">然后哗进来一堆人,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">直接,两路。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">网友天天在荔蕻的卧室</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">天天:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这袜子还有情可原,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这是磨的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">但这袜子也太那什么了,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这完全脚后跟都出来了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我刚才看这个毛衣,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我记得她在家穿过。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这起毛起的,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">估计差不多穿了五六年了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">七八年都有可能。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">但是她捐钱,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">帮助流民公房,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">三网民案的时候,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她连自己的退休费都拿出来了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">也就不到一万块钱吧。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她告诉我,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她把存折里所有的钱都拿出来了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">10 去年10月8日戴过的黄丝带</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这个是10月8号的时候带的那个,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我们每个人都带。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">10月份之后,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她知道有这个结果</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她说话特冷静,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">那种情况下,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">还担心何杨,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">说最担心的是何杨</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">孩子那么小。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">小齐坐在妈妈床边</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">采访小齐:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这是你妈妈的房间?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">对。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">你在那边?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">嗯。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">好像你妈妈的电脑房也在那边。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">对。基本上都是她的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">天天:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我以前来的时候也是住那屋。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">天天念荔蕻留在电脑桌上的备忘录:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">山东临沂的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">买MP4 8月22日送来。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">两个月,放人</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">王静梅的联系方式。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这个是陶然亭,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">估计是访民的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">第一次被打是2008年。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">脑外伤,恶心呕吐</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">症状都给写了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这个还在,读卡器。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">王大姐还去看画家的展览</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">她爱好挺广的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">看书,年轻的艺术家、诗人,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">挺多的。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">脏了。还是三月份,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">穿羽绒服,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这里挂的全是冬天的衣服。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">厨房灯影下有绿色闪动</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">看看它那里有一棵什么植物?</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">老朱:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">我去里面用那个灯给你照一下吧。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">这红薯长这么高了。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">11 厨房里的红薯</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">厨房的水桶上,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">3月底留下的一个红薯</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">已经长出一尺多长的枝叶。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">老朱给红薯叶浇水:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">它本身因为有很大的体积,</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">它里面</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">含有很多很多的水分和养料。</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">夜</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china2.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 01 公民王荔蕻</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 片头照片:</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china3.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 02 云南网友老朱说:4 ·16 我和王荔蕻并肩站在前列</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china4.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 03 看守所外 荔蕻的儿子小齐</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china5.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 04 老朱见到小齐</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china6.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 05 在野靖环大姐家的交流</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china7.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 06 野大姐的回忆</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china8.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 07 和刘晓原律师交谈</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china9.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 08 王荔蕻逮捕通知书</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china10.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 09 书房的电脑椅上披着大姐的棉衣</span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第一部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108300243china11.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; 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font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">(下接 《让阳光洒在地上》 二)</span>wawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17266556312717223286noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049780900640330177.post-21699247540118641502015-12-12T23:43:00.002-08:002015-12-12T23:47:48.152-08:00艾晓明纪录片: 让阳光洒到地上 (中文稿第二部分)<center style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;">
<b>艾晓明纪录片:让阳光洒到地上(中文稿第二部分)</b><br /><span style="color: #000fc0;"><small>2011年8月31日</small> </span></center>
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<span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 来源:参与 作者:艾晓明 </span><br />
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(参与2011年8月30日讯)<br />
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播放列表:http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL97D4A425A0CECFE0<br />
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让阳光洒到地上<br />
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2011年8月12日早晨<br />
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去温榆河法庭的路上<br />
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小齐在车里接电话:<br />
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无罪释放我们觉得<br />
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可能性微乎其微。<br />
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但是判很长也不太可能。<br />
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可能一年左右,<br />
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一年半年,这样。<br />
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缓刑也是有可能的。<br />
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好,没关系。<br />
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画外音<br />
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游精佑:<br />
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8月11日下午游精佑在福州机场登机时被警方拦截<br />
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……所以后面想想,这种架势,<br />
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应该不会让我走。<br />
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所以我跟他们到了机场派出所办公室,<br />
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在办公室我就问他,<br />
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我说,为什么不让我走?<br />
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他们就说:领导说的。<br />
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车里,小齐问天天:<br />
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天天你说吴华英被带走了?<br />
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昨天凌晨一点的时候,<br />
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吴华英被带走了。<br />
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从宾馆被带走的?<br />
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天天,从宾馆被带走的?<br />
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应该吧。<br />
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昨天她不是已经到北京了。<br />
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老朱:<br />
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昨天我们幸亏没过去,<br />
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过去就全部给捂进去了。<br />
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小齐:<br />
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有人在豆瓣上发的照片,<br />
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温榆河及其周边,<br />
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就是这样,都是工地。<br />
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我就站在这路边上呢。<br />
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小齐接受采访:<br />
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怎么样公平公正,<br />
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允许大家旁听。<br />
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旁边来的那些网友,<br />
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别把他们限制了。<br />
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允许人家进去旁听。<br />
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别浪费这么多警力。<br />
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警察也不容易,<br />
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大早上的跑这儿来,<br />
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跟咱们记者一块晒着,<br />
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比记者还辛苦,是不是。<br />
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对这个法院有什么期望?<br />
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<img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第二部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108310220china2.jpg" /></div>
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01(序号为插图顺序) 小齐接受采访<br />
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希望他们能为正义说句话吧。<br />
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不要沦为某某的工具。<br />
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好,谢谢!<br />
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谢谢你们。<br />
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是9点半吧?<br />
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9点。<br />
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方便留一个手机号吗?<br />
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一外国女记者:<br />
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她这个案件听说是福建……<br />
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是福建的事。<br />
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不是在北京发生的。<br />
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怎么过了一年才被逮捕呢?<br />
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就是,我也想知道。<br />
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而且它是不是应该在福建开庭?<br />
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对啊。<br />
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感觉北京警力挺有限的;<br />
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法院也挺闲的,<br />
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有时间替福建操心。<br />
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她现在有没有律师?<br />
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有。<br />
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是哪一位?<br />
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刘晓原律师和韩一村律师。<br />
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但他们的证件是不是有问题?<br />
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没有,现在(年检)已经过了。<br />
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之前有问题。<br />
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所以他们今天会在里面是吗?<br />
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对。<br />
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好,谢谢。<br />
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齐健翔。<br />
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今年多大岁数了?<br />
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26。<br />
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<img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第二部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108310220china3.jpg" /></div>
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02 记者和便衣警察都在拍摄<br />
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妈妈只有你一个孩子?<br />
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对。<br />
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住北京的。<br />
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对。<br />
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小齐(刘沙沙给小齐系上黄丝带):<br />
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03 刘沙沙给小齐系上黄丝带<br />
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求个吉利。<br />
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警察:<br />
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咱们无关的群众往后退一下。<br />
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不要围在这里了。<br />
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04 警察让人们散开<br />
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把马路都给占满了。<br />
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散一下散一下。<br />
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小齐:<br />
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大家保证自己安全吧。<br />
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别又没了。<br />
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小齐阻止警察推搡访民:<br />
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您这么大年纪了。<br />
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别别。<br />
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您保证安全,别再出事。<br />
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(访民画外音)他妈的简直是流氓。<br />
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便衣在拍摄围观者。<br />
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小齐:<br />
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刚才人多还是现在人多?<br />
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港媒记者:<br />
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现在公安多。<br />
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刚才也有几十个上访者来到。<br />
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现在是公安多。<br />
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小齐电话:<br />
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刘律师您到了吗?<br />
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我到了,我就在媒体那旁边呢。<br />
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小齐对访民说:<br />
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别跟他们发生任何冲突。<br />
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访民:<br />
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你得维护法律,维护正义。<br />
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你法律不正义,<br />
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老百姓更没处说理。<br />
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小齐跟刘律师会合,<br />
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刘晓原在路上因交通事故迟到:<br />
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05 刘晓原律师因公交车事故迟到<br />
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运土车抢一个车道。<br />
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公交车这样走,<br />
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它从那边进来的,<br />
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进来以后,司机就不理它,<br />
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它就往前走,<br />
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后面那个运土车,<br />
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骂骂咧咧下来了,就找他。<br />
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那个司机想走,<br />
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想不到前面还有车。<br />
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一个运土车,它就逼他。<br />
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那个司机开车就撞前面的车。<br />
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就走不了。<br />
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后来我要开车门,我要走,<br />
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他不允许,怎么都不同意,<br />
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我说这个不行,我要开庭啊。<br />
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小齐紧跟刘律师走向法院。<br />
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警戒线内工作人员:<br />
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刘晓原律师。<br />
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那个是谁啊?<br />
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他是家属。<br />
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家属先别进去。<br />
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刘晓原与法警争执:<br />
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当然啊,我是律师啊。<br />
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我要开庭。<br />
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你别动手,<br />
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你别动手。<br />
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赵连海画外音:<br />
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昨天,最近平时楼道里,<br />
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一般都两三个人,<br />
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昨天傍黑我带孩子出来玩会儿,<br />
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发现六七个(看守)<br />
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我就感觉有点不对劲了。<br />
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早上四点多,<br />
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趁他们睡觉吧,<br />
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我就跑出来了。<br />
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轻手轻脚的。<br />
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一网友过来:<br />
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赵先生!<br />
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你好!<br />
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支持你!<br />
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哪位?<br />
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我只是普普通通的一个工人。<br />
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两人握手。<br />
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<img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第二部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108310220china7.jpg" /></div>
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06 赵连海和网友互相激励<br />
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刘沙沙对记者解释赵连海的境况:<br />
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保外就医,<br />
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以有病的名义,保外就医,<br />
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但是楼下一直有人看守着。<br />
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每天有二三十个人看守。<br />
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赵连海;<br />
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实际上一直在粗暴地触犯法律的<br />
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实际上一直是他们。<br />
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这就是现状。<br />
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纵观我们身边的很多事情,<br />
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包括城管执法、强拆等等,<br />
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都是在严重地违反法律。<br />
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把老百姓的权益根本于不顾。<br />
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就这么一个现状。<br />
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在法律面前应该人人平等,<br />
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但是我们今天的现状是不平等。<br />
<br />
法律就是为特权人服务的,<br />
<br />
为特权阶层服务的。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
刘沙沙回答记者问题:<br />
<br />
她没有扰乱秩序,<br />
<br />
<br />
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<img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第二部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108310220china8.jpg" /></div>
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07 刘沙沙接受采访<br />
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<br />
赵连海回答电话采访:<br />
<br />
(有多少警察?)<br />
<br />
感觉有几十个吧,<br />
<br />
我看到的有几十个。<br />
<br />
还有很多便衣。<br />
<br />
人是相当多的。<br />
<br />
包括大兴的国保我看到的<br />
<br />
接近十来个。<br />
<br />
我们大兴的就来了这么多,<br />
<br />
我想朝阳本地还有市局<br />
<br />
应该会来得更多一些。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
网友挺多的,网友非常多。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
朱承志在现场接受采访:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
为什么要过来?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我和王荔蕻同在4·16现场。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
询问韩律师的画外音:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
他能进去吗?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
允许旁听。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
谁进去了?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
小齐。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
小齐可以。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
王荔蕻辩护律师韩一村<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
法警:<br />
<br />
拿二代身份证来。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
他没换。<br />
<br />
法院核实的。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
法警指小齐臂上的黄丝带:<br />
<br />
你把这个摘下来。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
(画外音)这个人是朝阳法庭的法警。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
小齐和韩律师进入警戒线内。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
刘巍律师拍摄:<br />
<br />
等一下啊。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第二部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108310220china9.jpg" /></div>
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<br />
08 刘巍律师到达现场<br />
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<br />
<br />
<br />
野靖环、野靖春姐妹:<br />
<br />
我们来旁听。<br />
<br />
拿出身份证来,咱们准备旁听的。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
这位是王宇律师。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
野靖环等与警方交涉:<br />
<br />
拿身份证。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
请问我们怎么办旁听证?<br />
<br />
你们有什么手续?<br />
<br />
我们来办旁听证来了。<br />
<br />
不是拿身份证就可以进去吗?<br />
<br />
就是,法院人呢?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
你好,麻烦你能给我们打电话联系一下吗?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
她打电话了,你也给打一下吧。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我们打都是民事案件的。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
别的案件怎么处理啊?<br />
<br />
你也不能没有人啊。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
你好,那麻烦给联系一下旁听的。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我们是民庭的,<br />
<br />
没法给你联系。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
你是法院的就行。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我们要求旁听一下。<br />
<br />
你好,先生<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我要旁听王荔蕻女士的……<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我们这都是民事当事人,<br />
<br />
当事人都在开庭。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
不是没开吗?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我们这都是民事当事人<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
赶紧地登记,我们还能进去。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我们要听的不是民事案子,<br />
<br />
我们就不管民事了。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我们想听的是一个刑事案子,<br />
<br />
谁能给我们联系一下?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
你要找一个刑事的法官。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
转场<br />
<br />
北京草场地258号<br />
<br />
艾未未工作室<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
采访:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
昨天你看到了有关审理的情况是吧?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
艾未未:<br />
<br />
没有,<br />
<br />
我只收到了我的那个情人刘晓原的短信。<br />
<br />
说他从车窗上翻出去了。<br />
<br />
当时我很心痛。<br />
<br />
我说,当时如果我在那儿,<br />
<br />
可以在车窗外接他一下。<br />
<br />
我在想翻的时候眼镜是不是掉下来了。<br />
<br />
因为我曾经在四川帮他抢他的律师证的时候,<br />
<br />
挺费劲的。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
艾未未与小齐的对话:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
小齐:<br />
<br />
一进来时我们俩都特别激动,<br />
<br />
一开始说话的时候我妈也特别激动,<br />
<br />
能感觉得出来。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
你们对话了?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
法官问她:你是王荔蕻吗?<br />
<br />
你的出生年月是什么,出生地在哪儿。<br />
<br />
能听出我妈情绪很激动,<br />
<br />
在压着情绪在说话,<br />
<br />
后来慢慢就好一些。<br />
<br />
往后就好一些。<br />
<br />
到临走的时候就比较平静了。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
环球时报英文版报道:<br />
<br />
《艾未未说话了》(AI Weiwei Speaks)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
艾未未:<br />
<br />
戴了这个眼镜看东西清楚了一些比以前。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第二部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/08/201108310220china10.jpg" /></div>
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<br />
09 艾未未的关注<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
这是老花镜。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
刘晓原:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
限制我的微博,气死了。<br />
<br />
我现在不让发微博了。<br />
<br />
昨天开始的。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
艾未未:<br />
<br />
他们……<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
刘晓原:<br />
<br />
他怕我现场直播。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
艾未未:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
他们现在什么事都能做。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
天天:<br />
<br />
我们那个派出所根据我新浪微博的IP地址,<br />
<br />
追踪到我家。<br />
<br />
然后拿个小的东西<br />
<br />
我室友上网,<br />
<br />
说的这个是不是你的IP地址。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
刘晓原:<br />
<br />
法官很温和,<br />
<br />
公诉人是两个年轻女孩子,<br />
<br />
比较文弱一点。<br />
<br />
两个人民陪审员,沉默不语。<br />
<br />
不太说话。<br />
<br />
只是我们两个辩护人,<br />
<br />
两个中年男人,有点凶。<br />
<br />
那个凶啊,凶恶的凶,不是胸脯的胸。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
艾未未:<br />
<br />
不是胸脯的胸。<br />
<br />
这家伙现在变得……<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
插话:近墨者黑。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
这倒是。<br />
<br />
一点都没正经。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
采访:<br />
<br />
你预料到王荔蕻这个处境吗?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
预料到没有?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
就说你预料到她会被抓吗?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我预料过任何人都会被抓,<br />
<br />
我觉得任何人只要表现出不同的意见,<br />
<br />
明确地表达出这种意见;<br />
<br />
如果还坚持,还具有一定的煽动性的话。<br />
<br />
都会被抓。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
画面回到开庭现场:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
可是所谓茉莉花以来,<br />
<br />
很多人都被放出来了,<br />
<br />
你觉得为什么北京这边反而一定还要走程序,<br />
<br />
对王荔蕻案开庭审理呢?<br />
<br />
冉云飞也放了。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
艾未未:<br />
<br />
我觉得可能两点吧:<br />
<br />
一个可能是她是个普通人,<br />
<br />
普通的人他们认为,<br />
<br />
因为这个社会很简单,<br />
<br />
它能够忽悠能够把这个东西糊弄过去,<br />
<br />
它都会糊弄过去的。<br />
<br />
它内部也需要有一定的交代,<br />
<br />
不能说所有的事情都好像,<br />
<br />
全翻盘了。<br />
<br />
他能够逮着你他是绝对不会让你过去的,<br />
<br />
对谁也一样。<br />
<br />
如果他有很硬的证据。<br />
<br />
对谁也都是一样的。<br />
<br />
王荔蕻还有一个就是<br />
<br />
一个是比较,可能他们认为<br />
<br />
关注点比较弱的一个人,<br />
<br />
就像他们当时对赵连海也是这样的,<br />
<br />
还有一个可能是王荔蕻自己的态度<br />
<br />
也是比较硬的。<br />
<br />
我们知道王荔蕻也是比较<br />
<br />
不会轻易改变自己的说法。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
国外使馆官员到场<br />
<br />
希望旁听王荔蕻案庭审<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
官员回答记者提问:<br />
<br />
请问来自哪里?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
德国。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
挪威。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
有发言人接受采访吗?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
谢谢!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
为什么你们今天到这里来?<br />
<br />
为什么你们关注这个案子?<br />
<br />
不能说吗?<br />
<br />
<br />
对不起,我们不接受采访。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
法院工作人员出来与外交官们交谈:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
有发传真,<br />
<br />
但是批准了吗?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我们没有得到回复。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
没有人批准?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
没有人回复。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
您看这样行不行,<br />
<br />
您昨天给法院发过传真,<br />
<br />
有没有之前发过传真?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
星期三。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
周三发过传真是吗?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我们得到确认,对方收到传真了。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
传真也到了。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
但是没有回复,这样,<br />
<br />
我们跟法院沟通一下,<br />
<br />
看看是什么情况。<br />
<br />
尽快给您个回复,您稍等一下。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
谢谢!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
记者在询问:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
奥地利。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
其他几位呢?<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
来自八个使馆和欧盟的代表。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
德国大使馆、捷克大使馆、<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
画外音<br />
<br />
刘晓原:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
指控她的罪名是不成立的,<br />
<br />
现在公诉机关也就是检察院对王荔蕻的指控<br />
<br />
主要是根据刑法293条,<br />
<br />
第4款的规定,<br />
<br />
寻衅滋事就是说在公共场所起哄闹事,<br />
<br />
并且使公共场所秩序造成严重混乱局面的,<br />
<br />
那就构成了寻衅滋事犯罪。<br />
<br />
因为这个293条总共有具体4种情形。<br />
<br />
他们指的是第4种情形,<br />
<br />
起哄闹事。<br />
<br />
造成公共场所秩序严重混乱的。<br />
<br />
他们不是为了寻找个人的一点刺激,<br />
<br />
或者出于其他的一种不良动机,<br />
<br />
我作为游精佑的辩护律师,<br />
<br />
我知道开庭以后,<br />
<br />
我在网络上发布过,在我的博客,<br />
<br />
为什么?因为开庭是公开开庭审理,<br />
<br />
开庭的消息不属于国家秘密,<br />
<br />
这个案件也不涉及个人隐私,<br />
<br />
我们发布是不违法的。<br />
<br />
那么有些网民看到了,就去了。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
北京大学法学院教授贺卫方:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
我觉得二十年来司法改革,<br />
<br />
大家一直推动的一个目标是:<br />
<br />
如何建构一个公正的司法体系。<br />
<br />
那么公正的前提离不开,<br />
<br />
一个是高度的职业化<br />
<br />
他们非常专业,<br />
<br />
他们视法律如生命;<br />
<br />
他们绝对不会去践踏自己<br />
<br />
安身立命之本的法律。<br />
<br />
他们在法律解释方面,<br />
<br />
要解释一条法律,<br />
<br />
必须要遵守相关的解释的规则;<br />
<br />
不可以把此罪和彼罪之间的界限模糊,<br />
<br />
人为地去模糊。<br />
<br />
他们要尊重律师,<br />
<br />
法官和检察官要形成一个<br />
<br />
我们叫法律职业共同体。<br />
<br />
大家的目标是正义,通过法律,<br />
<br />
通过公正的司法来维护正义。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
现在为什么会……不仅仅是这个案件,<br />
<br />
甚至可以说包括所有<br />
<br />
受到海内外强烈关注的案件,<br />
<br />
最后司法都偏离公正的轨道;<br />
<br />
甚至是在所有人都知道这是偏离的情况下,<br />
<br />
公然地、悍然地去践踏法治。<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
回到法院外现场:<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
干什么!<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
(便衣警察抢走访民的横幅)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
画外音赵连海:<br />
<br />
现在王大姐没有自由,<br />
<br />
我们现在没有办法,<br />
<br />
我们能够做的,就是更多人继续站出来。<br />
<br />
你不打压吗?<br />
<br />
让你们看,越打压,越反弹。<br />
<br />
我觉得今天这个现场,<br />
<br />
我觉得这个声势,<br />
<br />
不亚于福建的4·16<br />
<br />
<br />
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人群中刘沙沙领头喊口号:<br />
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王荔蕻,回家!<br />
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10 刘沙沙和声援者<br />
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公开审理,要求旁听,一、二!<br />
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公开审理,要求旁听!<br />
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11 野大姐和人们大声疾呼<br />
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画外音刘晓原:<br />
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你指控的依据是什么?<br />
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就仅仅是喊了口号,唱了国歌,<br />
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拉了横幅就构成犯罪,<br />
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那显然不符合刑法293条第4款的规定。<br />
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寻衅滋事这个罪名是1997年刑法修改后,<br />
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由原来1979年那个流氓罪分化出来的。<br />
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大家都知道,很多专家也提到了,<br />
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原来那个流氓罪是一个口袋罪。<br />
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便衣警察领导和老朱交涉,<br />
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要求大家别喊口号。<br />
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赵连海:<br />
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有好几个便衣在拍摄我们。<br />
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便衣警察的领导:<br />
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别叫了。(*别喊口号)<br />
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赵连海继续接受电话采访:<br />
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没事的,我们都乐观起来。<br />
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现在来讲已经无所谓什么了。<br />
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愿意怎样对待我们就怎样对待吧。<br />
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他根本就不讲理。<br />
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这么一个堂堂的大政府,<br />
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天天宣扬依法治国,<br />
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可是公然地去践踏法律。<br />
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这样的状态我们真是很无奈。<br />
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我们很多公民……<br />
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刘晓原画外音<br />
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这个罪也像一个口袋罪一样,<br />
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其他的罪不好指控的,<br />
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刚才说的,你只要去围观了,<br />
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喊了口号或者怎么,<br />
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寻衅滋事嘛,<br />
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你就是闹事嘛!<br />
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简单的,对寻衅滋事的理解,<br />
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你就是闹事,没事找事嘛。<br />
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就往里面一套。<br />
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当然我们也回想到赵连海那个案子。<br />
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赵连海也是寻衅滋事,<br />
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就说他召开了新闻发布会,<br />
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搞了一批外媒记者来围观。<br />
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所以现在也有维权人士认为,<br />
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寻衅滋事正在变为用来对付一些维权人士,<br />
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这是大家感到很惊讶的。<br />
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访民对着外国记者控诉:<br />
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……为了维权,向领导反映问题。<br />
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就这样迫害我,<br />
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在2009年,两会期间,<br />
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把我打成残废了,公安,<br />
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西街派出所的王伟(音)<br />
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拿铁棍把我这条腿打伤。<br />
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照片都在呢,今天我没有拿来。<br />
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我依法维权23年,<br />
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大儿子被害死了,<br />
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二儿子现在在监狱里。<br />
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我被公安打成重伤,<br />
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我三次劳教,七次拘留。<br />
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打人者逍遥法外,<br />
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12 访民控诉<br />
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把受害者送到监狱里头。<br />
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冤枉!为我们老百姓做主!<br />
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还我们公道!<br />
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围观网友:<br />
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来得早的可能就来了,<br />
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来得晚的估计,<br />
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咱们来得早就到这儿了。<br />
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来得晚的估计可能在哪儿截住了。<br />
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访民画外音:<br />
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为什么这么多人关注她啊?<br />
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她要贪污了没有一个人来看她。<br />
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(下接第三部分)</div>
wawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17266556312717223286noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049780900640330177.post-33570685608976109092015-12-12T23:37:00.000-08:002015-12-12T23:37:06.150-08:00艾晓明纪录片:让阳光洒到地上(中文稿第三部分)<br />
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<b>艾晓明纪录片:让阳光洒到地上(中文稿第三部分)</b><br /><span style="color: #000fc0;"><small>2011年9月01日</small></span></center>
<span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> 来源:参与 作者:艾晓明 </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><br style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><span style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china1.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;" /><br />
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<br /> <br /> 艾晓明最新纪录片<br /> <br /> 让阳光洒到地上 中文字幕稿(第三部分)<br /> <br /> 片长:59分 ·彩色· 中文字幕·<br /> <br /> 2011年8月25日<br /> <br /> 播放列表:http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL97D4A425A0CECFE0<br /> <br /> ·三·<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 画外音接入对现场围观网友的采访<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 网友赵长青:<br /> <br /> 今天我来到这里,想看看王大姐。<br /> <br /> 去年我和王荔蕻大姐在一块儿开过<br /> <br /> 挺温家宝的研讨会,<br /> <br /> 在一块儿吃过饭,饭过醉,<br /> <br /> 现在王大姐被逮捕了,今天审判。<br /> <br /> 我7月16号结婚了,<br /> <br /> 想给王大姐送点喜糖,<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china2.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> 01 插图 给王大姐留的喜糖<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 不知道这个糖呢,<br /> <br /> 一会儿能不能送进去。<br /> <br /> 希望王大姐能够吃上我和我爱人<br /> <br /> 结婚时留下的喜糖。<br /> <br /> 也希望王大姐今天能够得到<br /> <br /> 地方当局公正的审判。<br /> <br /> 能够像温家宝先生所说的那样,<br /> <br /> 公平正义比太阳还要光辉。<br /> <br /> 还王大姐一份公平。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 为什么你来?你从哪儿来?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 推友蓝无忧:<br /> <br /> 我从郑州来的,蓝无忧。<br /> <br /> 因为今年3月份的时候,<br /> <br /> 王荔蕻老师刚刚解除软禁,<br /> <br /> 3月16号左右吧,<br /> <br /> 她马上就买了一张火车票,<br /> <br /> 去郑州,看望在那里被劳教的王译,<br /> <br /> 然后她又去上蔡去看田喜。<br /> <br /> 两天时间大概跑了有三千多里路。<br /> <br /> 我陪同她去看王译了。<br /> <br /> 她回去后两天,<br /> <br /> 3月21号就被捕了,<br /> <br /> 后来又被起诉,被审判。<br /> <br /> 我觉得这个老太太王大姐,<br /> <br /> 能够跋涉几千里去看望朋友,<br /> <br /> 我作为她的朋友,我也有义务……<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china3.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> 02 来自河南的网友<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 你为什么来了?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 清华大学政治学系教师 吴强博士:<br /> <br /> 我其实是两方面,<br /> <br /> 王大姐以前我见过,<br /> <br /> 很尊重、很敬佩的一个维权斗士。<br /> <br /> 今天我想,我过来观察。<br /> <br /> 我也是做研究的,<br /> <br /> 看看好几个月沉寂以后,<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china4.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> 03 吴强博士<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 抓的人,胖子也放了,老艾也放了,<br /> <br /> 老冉,冉云飞也放了,<br /> <br /> 看看大家现在心情怎么样,<br /> <br /> 跟大家聊一聊。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 天津口音推友:<br /> <br /> 王姐是为我们进去的。<br /> <br /> 为我们每个人进去的。<br /> <br /> 我们应该为她说话。<br /> <br /> 该我们说话,<br /> <br /> 我们应该为她说话。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 你也是网友?<br /> <br /> 认识王荔蕻吗?见过王荔蕻吗?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 没有。<br /> <br /> 看过她的片子,<br /> <br /> 包括福建游精佑他们的片子我都看过。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 上海推友:<br /> <br /> 昨天从上海到北京,<br /> <br /> 今天早上到温榆河法庭这边门口来围观来了。<br /> <br /> 我觉得这事做得有点太过。<br /> <br /> 气不过,所以跑来了。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 你觉得什么地方过了?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 王大姐那么好的一个人,<br /> <br /> 她做错什么了?<br /> <br /> 这政府做事真是太过分了。<br /> <br /> 这法律,在他们手里就像橡皮泥一样,<br /> <br /> 捏过来捏过去的。<br /> <br /> 受不了,别拍了。<br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china5.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> 04 来自上海的网友<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 欧盟代表和外交官们走出法院<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china6.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> <br /> 05 使馆人员离开法院<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 一位访民大姐:<br /> <br /> 我今天,不是为别的,<br /> <br /> 我自己任何事情都不说,<br /> <br /> 我只说王荔蕻大姐,<br /> <br /> 她是现在中国公民的良心。<br /> <br /> 她是一个真正有社会责任感的人。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 小齐走出法院大门。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 访民大姐继续说:<br /> <br /> 今天她的到来,<br /> <br /> 给我们带来中国法治的希望,<br /> <br /> 我希望今天能当庭释放。<br /> <br /> 虽然这是一种奢望,<br /> <br /> 但是我相信,<br /> <br /> 只要中国还是法治国家,<br /> <br /> 它就应该有这样一个结果。<br /> <br /> 如果不是这样,<br /> <br /> 我相信,所有的中国人,<br /> <br /> 都不会停止呼吁对王荔蕻大姐的释放。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china7.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> 06 一位大姐的话<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 小齐接受采访:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 画外音:你妈很棒!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 小齐:<br /> <br /> 没判,今天没判,说的还得继续审。<br /> <br /> 今天没给消息,说择日审判。<br /> <br /> 走流程。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 有证人出庭吗?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 小齐继续:<br /> <br /> 律师想说些自由发挥的时候,<br /> <br /> 不让说,我觉得也很正常。<br /> <br /> 法庭里面,全都是针对4 ·16的事。<br /> <br /> 比如说律师说,<br /> <br /> 其他的庭审,就说这交通管制这事,<br /> <br /> 有几次开庭都交通管制了,<br /> <br /> 为什么只有这次造成了<br /> <br /> 所谓有寻衅滋事的后果。<br /> <br /> 很多证言和证词,我觉得<br /> <br /> 都不靠谱。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 有公交司机的证词<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china8.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> 07 小齐接受采访<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 公交司机公司的经理的证词,<br /> <br /> 运输公司司机的证词。<br /> <br /> 还有他们的经理的证词。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 在法院门口<br /> <br /> 警察在拉警戒线,警车即将开出。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 远处的人们赶来:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 王大姐无罪!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china9.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> <br /> 08 警车开出法院<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 警车远去。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 便衣在喊:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 走啦走啦!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 采访区:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 律师来了啊。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 这个是律师,这个穿白衣服的是律师。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 韩律师!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 今天是,庭审还要继续吗?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 王荔蕻辩护律师韩一村:<br /> <br /> 我说吧。大家静一静,我说我说。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 等一下。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 你们不要问了,我说一下好了。<br /> <br /> 今天朝阳区人民法院没有正常审理这个案件。<br /> <br /> 第一……<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 往前走一点。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 这个案子在一个很小的法庭里审理,<br /> <br /> 旁听席上只有五个座位,<br /> <br /> 其中有两个警察,剩下的就是,<br /> <br /> 小齐,和两个穿便衣的人。<br /> <br /> 大家来了,要求公开审理,<br /> <br /> 根据刑事诉讼法的规定,<br /> <br /> 人民法院应该尽量地满足大家的要求。<br /> <br /> 实行社会监督,接受舆论监督。<br /> <br /> 他们没有努力在这方面做。<br /> <br /> 他们失职。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 第二,在庭审过程中,<br /> <br /> 公诉方的举证方式违法,<br /> <br /> 在质证的过程中,公诉机关应当<br /> <br /> 逐人逐事地发表质证意见,<br /> <br /> 而它是打包举证。<br /> <br /> 打包,很多人,很多事,鸹,一起说。<br /> <br /> 这一弄,给被告人王荔蕻……<br /> <br /> 她想不起来,记不起来啊。<br /> <br /> 辩护律师也没有时间,<br /> <br /> 没有充足的时间做质证意见。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 第三,在法庭辩护阶段,<br /> <br /> 在我发表辩护意见的时候,<br /> <br /> 法官打断我,<br /> <br /> 并且阻止我。<br /> <br /> 不允许发表我的辩护意见。<br /> <br /> 在辩护的时候我和刘晓原律师做些分工,<br /> <br /> 刘晓原律师主要从法律辩护,<br /> <br /> 阐述证据技术方面的问题,<br /> <br /> 我主要从公民权利和宪法权利的高度<br /> <br /> 做阐述。<br /> <br /> 而法官不让我辩护,<br /> <br /> 拒绝我宣读辩护词。<br /> <br /> 我很无奈,<br /> <br /> 经过再三请求,<br /> <br /> 他还没答应。<br /> <br /> 我认为他侵害了我的职业权利。<br /> <br /> 休庭后,我提交了书面材料。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 记者提问:<br /> 有没有说为什么不给你发言?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 第四,法庭最后的阶段,<br /> <br /> 叫被告人陈述,<br /> <br /> 王荔蕻在陈述的时候,<br /> <br /> 也被法官打断,<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china10.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> <br /> 09 韩律师接受采访<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 不能充分地发挥自己的理由。<br /> <br /> 所以这次朝阳区人民法院<br /> <br /> 在审理王荔蕻案件中,<br /> <br /> 我认为很不正常,很不正常。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 记者:<br /> <br /> 那现在庭审已经完了,<br /> <br /> 择日再判是吗?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 韩律师:<br /> <br /> 庭审宣布结束,<br /> <br /> 本案将定期宣判。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 不用再审了?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 一审完了。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 那什么时候判呢?不知道。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 我预计8月份吧,<br /> <br /> 肯定在这个月了。<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 尾声<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 赵连海和网友们一起聚餐<br /> <br /> 监控他的警车随行而至<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china11.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> 10 连海在诉说 警察在等待<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 主题歌起:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 让阳光洒到地上<br /> <br /> 河水流到山上<br /> <br /> 地层下的一点光<br /> <br /> 照耀着黑暗的天<br /> <br /> 泥土下的生命<br /> <br /> 翻开这水泥围墙<br /> <br /> 散失的生命重聚<br /> <br /> 让山上的灵安躺<br /> <br /> 有一天总会这样<br /> <br /> 有一天总会这样<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china12.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> 11 小齐穿着这件衣服 希望大家想起他妈妈的时候 也会记得陈光诚<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china13.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> 12 王荔蕻被捕前录像画面<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 字幕:<br /> <br /> 王荔蕻的朋友何杨<br /> <br /> 《赫索格的日子》导演<br /> <br /> 8月11日下午提前被约谈<br /> <br /> 未能接受被片采访<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 8月12日何杨被警方带往郊区<br /> <br /> 以免他去法院围观<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 王荔蕻开车,车窗外掠过北京街景<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 王荔蕻与众网友<br /> <br /> 看望倪玉兰律师<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 2011年4月7日<br /> <br /> 倪玉兰律师与丈夫同被拘留<br /> <br /> 现已批捕候审<br /> <br /> 罪名为“寻衅滋事”和“诈骗”<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 王荔蕻的其他在京朋友——<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 老虎庙被驱逐无法留居北京<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 诗人阿尔在外省漂泊<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 飘香被迫离开中国<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 文涛与艾未未同时失踪<br /> <br /> 被戴手铐80天<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 赵连海离开餐厅时与一警察发生肢体冲突<br /> <br /> 在家门口被数十位警察带往派出所<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 屠夫被警察限制,<br /> <br /> 无法到达开庭现场<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img alt="艾晓明发布纪录片新作中文稿:让阳光洒到地上(组图)(中文稿第三部分)" src="http://www.boxun.com/news/images/2011/09/201109010106china14.jpg" /></div>
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<br /> <br /> 13 北京朋友们的遭遇<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 视频画面:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 送屠夫回福建的晚会上<br /> <br /> 荔蕻和朋友们一起欢呼:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 屠夫加油!<br /> <br /> 游精佑回家!<br /> <br /> 吴华英回家!<br /> <br /> 范燕琼回家!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 主题歌:地层下的一点光<br /> <br /> 词/曲/演唱:保新谊<br /> <br /> 录制:陈伟发<br /> <br /> 鸣谢:香港噪音合作社<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 4·16现场录像:飘香 评修等<br /> <br /> 10月8日聚会照片:慕亦仁等<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 感谢8·12开庭现场给我照应的网友<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 感谢接受采访的所有朋友<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 释放王荔蕻让她自由<br /> <br /> 博客投稿信箱<br /> <br /> freewanglihong@gmail.com<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> 公民呼吁释放王荔蕻<br /> <br /> 签名信箱<br /> <br /> Freewanglihong2011@gmail.com<br /> <br /> <br /> 拍摄 剪辑 艾晓明<br /> <br /> 2011年8月25日 (博讯记者:蔡楚) (博讯 boxun.com) </div>
wawahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17266556312717223286noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8049780900640330177.post-34147241957306044302015-01-06T03:36:00.003-08:002015-01-06T03:46:56.277-08:00向前向前向前 我们的乳房向太阳<br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">在朋友圈里看到信息,广电局最新禁令,武媚娘惨遭切乳。网评这几天好有看点,男神圈王五四甩出雄文,我转了;女权圈吕频揭竿而起,文中批男性撒娇,四大妈观点成了靶子之一。我自以为也是女权圈的,观点与吕频略有不同。但大家能够吵起来,这真令人激动狂喜。政治批判、言论自由和性别差异各做喧哗,才叫开场有戏。今晨起,发现我的观点还被当成对武媚娘传奇的剧评,严重了。必须声明,我没看过这个戏,我说的是对露乳沟这类禁令的抗议。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">乳沟暗示乳房之秘而不宣,那真是欲盖弥彰;讨论乳房要不说话,枉做一世女人。长在你我身上的乳房,是命脉、脸书、凶器和时代标志啊,切莫小觑。经历过文革的人可能记得《小街》电影一幕,青春期的少女用丈二布带把胸部捆成粽子以磨灭性征。在禁欲的革命文艺中,女性乳房凝聚妇女冤仇,左翼作家柔石、萧红,都写过为奴隶的母亲。七十年代的革命芭蕾舞《沂蒙颂》中,乳房神话为革命的源泉,正是红嫂的乳汁让战士浴火重生。只不过,五尺男儿吃奶的画面难逃暧昧,不如鸡汤安全实惠——既洗白了性的暗示,又将革命女性顺利送返服务行业。“炉中火,放红光,我为亲人熬鸡汤”;红嫂啊,革命的母鸡快下蛋。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"> (看上面这两张剧照,红嫂领扣紧锁,胸口齐平,救命的乳汁成了无源之水)</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">在上述三种情况中,乳房都不是女性自己的,也不可以承载欲望。而在传统中,还可以找到第四种象征,如今被反贪话语广泛挪用。说的是一个混蛋(小贼或江洋大盗)临到绑缚刑场,要求找来母亲吮乳永别。这一吮,咬断乳头,对母职的原罪做了血肉了断。好吧,你不是慈母教子无方;你不是良妇纵容荒淫。金钱美女,俗话总是这样混搭,权力和制度逃之夭夭,搅浑一潭祸水。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">厌女症就是父权制的心理根基,女人的乳房被简化为性、欲望、诱惑的砝码。波涛汹涌了,一浪高过一浪,那还不天下大乱!我估计广电局及其主管部门就这样抽刀断水,剪了范冰胸。其实,相比层出不穷的言论限制,这能算个啥?我们看到的和看不到的信息之对比,只能用野蛮和文明、猪与人的差异来形容。英国BBC挖掘二战可以上天下海拍摄当年坠成一把方便面形状的盟军战机和凿沉的纳粹U形潜艇,咱们这里抗战老兵还得靠势单力薄的志愿者寻找和救济。至于暴力截访血腥强拆律师系狱阴霾蔽日江河断流……哪一样得到过深度报道?剪乳沟,你就知足了吧,试问今日之中国,除了满大街的核心价值和刷梦语,剩下了几句人话几片断魂?</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">回过头来说看胸论战,你可以说,那还不是柿子捡软的捏,借机发泄男性欲望耍小流氓调戏妇女;但挑战禁忌的话语没有那么简单。正如我等有乳房有乳沟的女权斗士,也没必要横眉立目把看胸之胸搞得更敏感,中了内鬼的奸计。对不起,我说的不是武媚娘这个片子好不好,也不是说性场景与儿童性心理的关系;我说的是女人的身体,除了被父权制挪用欺压架空规训;女权派可以有自己的解释。我为什么要承认你所说的乳房是诱惑是淫荡是男性观众的娱乐对象;我的乳房我做主正如我的阴道、性高潮、性取向及其隐私都是独立于男权控制的自在世界。要抵抗的不是男性的眼睛而是通过凝视来控制女性身体的权力。某部电视剧该不该露乳沟,这本可以展开艺术文化历史乃至于唐代妇女性别观念与服饰的讨论,权力部门不可以直接操刀,阉割创作和批评自由。事情是这样搞大的,抗议也比找马路对面派出所理论更其严峻。</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">从历史上看,女人的身体真是身经百战,艰难求存。中国有过缠足风俗,非洲如今还存在女性割礼。战争中女性的性是战利品,从古希腊城邦战争到现代的种族屠杀,妇女比男性更多地遭受性侵害。科技时代,女性的性再度变身为整容手术的推销市场。是的,说一声我做主,字字血声声泪谈何容易。但我们不能因此禁止女生走夜路穿短裙,军队不招女兵,或者杜绝美容科技……女性要进入公共空间要自由要发展要安全还要性自主性解放,怎么办?加入女权阵营抗争啊。西方社会正是这样才有了女总理、女性的国防部长以及女性在各个领域的话语权。把女性的性压扁为诱惑、欲望,把乳沟视为不端、不规矩的事情,就在女权高涨的西方国家一样不乏其例,那又如何,反击啊。去年不是有报道,澳大利亚女总理吉拉德在议会里着低胸装,引发批评,大批女网友上传爆乳照,力挺女总理。德国女总理安格拉·默尔克在政务场合着装暴露,告诉全世界我就是女人嘛,我就是喜欢性感;人家还在公益广告上喂奶呢。乳沟啊,你是多么深奥;乳房啊,你是多么犀利。你颠倒众生,强盛国族,不是鸡汤胜似鸡汤啊!</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">我不知道这两位西方女性政治家下次访问中国着了低胸装会怎样,广电局剪不了她们也就只能望西洋叹悲凉啊。当年的样板戏《红灯记》里不是有台词道:杀了我一个,自有后来人。举目看世界,经过半个多世纪性解放运动的锤炼和洗礼,性别多元化以及身体与性的多元表达势不可挡。那屏幕上只会用传统的气球乳房调度观众窥淫欲望的导演,其艺术想象已经够屈从够可怜;就这还不算死硬了,我心悲愤。网友戏谑下消失的乳胸,最终是折损了陛下的天颜。搞到皇上脸都没了,我就很开心,忍不住高歌一曲:</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">地点:北京甘粹先生住所</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">1932年12月生于中国浙江绍兴,1955年保送进入中国人民大学新闻系。1958年被划为“右派”,同年与林昭相识;隔年被发配到新疆进行劳动改造20年。1979年“右派”获得改正后,回到北京,在中国社会科学院党委宣传部工作。其后曾任中国社会科学院文学研究所资料室主任、副研究员等职。1992年退休,目前定居北京。曾主编出版《中国长篇小说辞典》(1991年敦煌文艺出版社)。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">艾晓明简介:广州公民、学者,2004年开始独立纪录片制作。详细资料见“艾晓明工作室博客”(4)</span><a href="http://aixiaomingstudio.blogspot.com/"><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.5pt;">http://aixiaomingstudio.blogspot.com/</span></a><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">2012年我开始寻找林昭遗稿,因此也陆陆续续访问了一些林昭的难友和同学。去年12月参加网易年度演讲去北京,因此得以和甘粹先生做了三天的交流。胡杰先生在《寻找林昭的灵魂》采访过甘粹先生,片中有他对林昭的回忆以及晚年生活的画面。有关甘粹先生自己的经历,片中有一句话作为提示:甘粹先生在新疆“度过了地狱般的二十二年”。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">因此我在下面的访问中,请甘粹先生具体讲述了他在新疆的经历;这是交织着历史悲剧和人生苦难的回忆。按资历来说,甘粹是1949年参军的老革命,和林昭一样,青年时代满腔热诚地拥抱共产主义理想。但反右之后,特别是因为和林昭相爱而被发配新疆,从此受尽折磨。为摆脱劳改苦役,他逃出当盲流,甚至讨饭度日,还被当做苏修特务抓住捆绑吊打……一个人的生命是怎样被“反右”的政治罪恶所拨弄、扭曲,尽在他的证言中。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">该书于2010年在台湾出版,这势必是一部传世之作。一位在劳改生涯中迫不得已采取“装死狗”的策略而求生的人,历经磨难,保留了他英勇不屈的灵魂,在这部书中高昂着头颅站出来。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">选择今天发出这一访谈录,特别的目的是纪念林昭为自由殉难四十六周年。值得一记的还有,昨天下午接到来自中山大学保卫处长的电话,问我会不会去苏州,说有些别有用心的人组织什么活动,不要参与。我问:谁是别有用心的人?对方语焉不详。我继而说:任何公民都有权利祭奠死难者,更不用说祭奠林昭。要求您传递这个指令的人才是“别有用心”的人,请转告他们:他们很卑鄙!</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">我在微信上看到林昭墓前警察林立,去祭奠的公民被带到派出所,还有人遭到殴打。我愤怒的同时也放声大笑:林昭,你的英魂狂放有力,所向披靡。你召唤所有热爱自由的人,你让专制者胆颤心惊。你是我们的中国梦,是他们的噩梦和诅咒。你如古希腊的复仇女神,会一直追逐那些迫害过你而且想继续祸国殃民的恶势力,你将一直把他们送进坟墓。在今天这个特别的日子里,我和无数热爱你的公民一起将你的信仰大声喊出:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:你们做这个工作很有意义,而且很迫切,再过一段时候我们这些老家伙慢慢都死掉了,再想找就找不着了。最好是这样,不要漫无边际地谈,你想了解什么你就问。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个十四万言书是怎么来的呢?据说是法院把十四万言书给了林昭的妹妹,林昭的妹妹就复印了一份,给了许觉民——她的堂舅。许觉民把这一份给了我,因为</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">手稿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">字太小,他年纪大了看不见</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">许觉民让我看一遍,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把它</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">抄下来,意思就是说,看能不能想办法出版。因为许觉民原来是《人民文学》出版社的编辑室主任吧,出版界他认识很多人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就看了,也抄出来了。林昭那个字,说白了也就我认识</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">抄出来以后,我给许觉民讲,这里头有些内容不行,因为谈了很多柯庆施的事</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">许觉民讲,可不可以删掉有关的不好的地方,咱们再想办法出版。后来我回去又看了一遍,给许觉民讲,这些东西没法改,没法删,一删就不是林昭原来的味道了。这个东西要么就是原文发表,咱们不要删。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个事情就作罢了,所以稿子一直在我手上。我抄出来以后给了胡杰,胡杰拿着复印件(就是林昭妹妹给许觉民的复印件)和我誊写出来的十四万字的稿子,从南京到北京,北京到南京,反反复复来了好多次。我抄出来就差不多花了四个月时间。胡杰来采访,是宣传林昭,我是大力支持的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我抄的复印件稿子全部给了胡杰,胡杰的纪录片里就拍到了一些,他最后都还给我了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个稿子的来龙去脉就是这样。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">现在这个稿子还有个波折我简单提一下,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">蒋文钦</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">找我,我把我抄写出来的十四万言书和复印件又复印了一遍</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">寄给</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">蒋文钦。蒋文钦</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说看不清楚,他要看林昭妹妹给许觉民</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、后</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">又转给我的那一份原稿。我想,为了纪念林昭我大力支持,我就把这稿子给了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">蒋文钦</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">蒋文钦</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有他的功劳,十四万言字我是用钢笔抄出来的,但是他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">录入电脑后就可以</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">打印出来了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。电脑录入</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我不会</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这是他的功劳。</span><span style="background: rgb(217, 217, 217); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">现在我了解到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭妹妹把这些</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">手稿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">全部捐给美国胡佛研究所了,我这一份也不是林昭的手稿,是法院退给林昭妹妹的复印件,原稿不在我这里,原稿在美国。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:那稿子我抄出来了下面写了个日志,2000年7月11日</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">前前后后花了四个月。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">79年落实政策回北京。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">79年、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">80年我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">见到彭令范</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">彭令范是来找北京大学落实林昭右派问题的,那个时候我才知道林昭的事情</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在新疆呆了二十年,一直不知道。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">彭令范2004年6月份出国,出国之前留下这个手稿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">复印件</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">给她舅舅。他舅舅跟倪竞雄一起去送她出国的,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">惟一</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就留了十四万言书的遗稿,在许觉民那里。实际上北大百年因为林昭这个事情成了舆论焦点,那是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">98年,十四万言书的价值就凸现出来了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">98年北大百年,南方周末、武汉</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">发表纪念文章,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都是那个时候,讨论林昭问题</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">彭令范在美国</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">写了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">回忆文章</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《我和姐姐》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭这个事情得感谢胡杰,没有他也不行</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我对胡杰是大力支持的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">胡杰没有十四万言字</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不行</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">只有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我抄出来的复印件也不行</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我把它抄出来以后,给了许觉民一份,但许觉民也老了没有时间看</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没有胡杰拍摄的片子《寻找林昭的灵魂》,林昭这个事情后来也不会那么轰动。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:这是我抄手抄稿的原稿。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:469</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">页。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:反正那时我的安排是一天抄一千多字,她这是137页,我一天抄一页,这非常费眼睛的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是胡杰根据</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我的手抄稿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">整理出来的一份,他取个名字叫《女牢书简》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这一份我觉得他改</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">得</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不错,就是把那些不该有的,什么柯庆施等,都没有。这是胡杰的一份,他给了我。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:您当时是怎么和林昭分手的?我看你那回忆录里面</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">写了,而胡杰</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">纪录片里没</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">多</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">涉及。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我和林昭相处在一起</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">前前后后也就一年时间</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这一年北京大学中文系新闻专业跟人民大学新闻系合并,合并的具体地点是铁狮子胡同一号</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就是现在的张自忠路三号。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">它</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">过去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">段祺瑞的总统府,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">更</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">早</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">些时候</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">清朝</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">慈禧太后修建的海军部</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">张自忠路三号是文物保护单位,那里头分三块</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">中间钟鼓楼这一块后头花园</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">现在还是由人民大学书报社占着</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">东边这一块后来划给社会科学院东欧所</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">西亚非所</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还有日本所在那里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">西边是红墙,六层楼的房子,那是人民大学盖的,是人民大学的职工宿舍</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">民大学城里就两个系,历史档案系和新闻系</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">58年,我跟林昭认识时还很冷</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">民大学和北京大学一样反右,基本上走两步</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">第一次人民大学反右,老师和学生反了两百个右派</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这还没有完成任务</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">上面给的指标任务是四百个。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">57年反右到年底,我还不是右派</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">58年第二次补课,又反了两百个右派</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我是后面这两百个右派里头的一个,人民大学总共反了四百个右派。林昭,我估计,因为我不在北大,她肯定也是后来划的右派。她到人民大学来了一次,之后从文字记载上看,是五</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">六月份,就是北大合并人大,我的印象可能还要早一点。罗列是北大新闻系主任,把她带过来了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。她被安排</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在人民大学新闻系资料室,监督劳动改造。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">59年是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人民大学新闻系</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">第四个年头,这一年具体内容是半年实习半年写论文</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">实习没有我的份,我被开除党籍了,论文也不要我写了。新闻系说你就到资料室去吧,劳动改造。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们这些右派,大概有十几</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">二十个人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">开头就在校园里头扫垃圾</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">捡香蕉皮。最后开学了,就叫我到新闻系资料室去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我去的时候,林昭已经在资料室了。资料室没有多少人,就三个人,头儿是王前</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">王前就是刘少奇跟王光美结婚之前一位夫人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,她</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">带兵就带林昭跟我两个</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">王前就说,现在中共中央宣传部委托中国人民大学新闻系编中共报刊史</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你们两个就看国民党时期的一些报纸,收集资料,为中共报刊史编写做卡片。我们两个当时每天上班就是在图书报纸堆里头,这样才跟林昭认识了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我记得很清楚,我去的时候,天气还比较冷,我推开办公室的门进去,就林昭一个人在那里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她正好打开水回来准备泡茶,而且给我泡了一杯。她说茶叶是王前给的,我知道王前是人民大学副校长</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">聂</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">真的爱人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她当然是高干</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就这样相识,第一次见面就是这样的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭那时候有病,像林黛玉一样,实际上是肺病,咳嗽,吐痰里面带血。那时候王前跟我讲</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你是男的,林昭是女的,没事你多照顾一下林昭。王前很同情我们这两个右派,她特别喜欢林昭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她们有话可以谈得来。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">时间长了,有时林昭没有来上班,我就知道她病了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就跑去看她,她就住在铁一号东边,就是现在社科院占的那一部份里头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">二楼那个房子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一个小间,十平米左右。我去看她</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">觉得很</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">可怜,那我就帮她打水,买饭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人民大学那个时候没有暖气,宿舍都是大宿舍,工友烧的煤炉子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭是个右派,根本</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">管她。我看她那个房间很冷,春节过了我就跑去总务处,领了一个铁炉子,我给她安上炉子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">通风管</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">又跑到铁一号后面堆的蜂窝煤,找个背筐</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">装上煤</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">背上二楼到林昭的房间里头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外再柴火</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劈柴拿一点,都摆在那里。我拿点劈柴把林昭屋子里头的炉子生起来,房间马上就暖和了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">平常就我们两个右派上班,也不谈什么,都</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">钻到后头她那个房子里头,看书看报纸。林昭古典文学比较好,她看的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">全是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">古的线装书</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">笔记小说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那都是文言文,我不喜欢看,我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">看现在出版的这些。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:报纸看一点,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">卡片</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">做几张应付了。开头还找报纸看一看,结果就都是各看各的书。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从我跟她接触言谈,我就很佩服林昭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭确实是个才女</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她文学特别是古典文学水平大大超过我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我也就是在人民大学学了点中国古典文学,什么</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">诗经</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都是些皮毛</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样慢慢谈</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">比较</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">谈得</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">拢。另外</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在生活上尽量照顾她,给她生炉子,背煤球,给她在食堂买饭。我记得最清楚的是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来有了感情,她病了,学生食堂的饭吃不下,那饭就是早上一个窝窝头,包谷面糊糊,另外还有个咸菜疙瘩。那时人民大学的学生,一个月伙食费大概五块</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">六块钱就够了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">咱们稍微</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">吃</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">好一点,有时候就吃点肉菜</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那一个月七块</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">八块钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就够了。但是林昭她早上不吃</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">饭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我就着急了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来想个办法,每天早上在张自忠路坐无轨电车,坐两三站路到东四</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。那里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有个广东餐馆,它早上卖广东肉粥。我先自己吃一碗,然后再买一碗</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">大概是一毛五分钱一碗,我就带回学校给林昭送去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">广东肉粥比较高级——她就吃了。咱们就这样,从相逢到相识</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在一块儿工作,生活上也照顾她,谈得比较来,有时候一块儿出去。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">每个礼拜天</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都跟林昭出去逛公园、逛北海,因为张自忠路过去就是北海,划船、还看话剧。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b>林昭与甘粹、甘粹的同学三人合影</b></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:当时看什么话剧?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有《</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">关汉卿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、《窦娥冤》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我记得很清楚就是《窦娥冤》。她有个同学叫倪竞雄,是沪剧的编剧。她有时来北京开会,就有些票,她把那些票给我跟林昭去看,而且还坐最好的位置</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,坐在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">第一排。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时林昭住在二楼,我独自一个人没事</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就在一楼走廊边拉二胡</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我会拉二胡,拉得不好</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">拉刘天华的《病中吟》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭在房间里头,听见二胡声音委婉、凄凉,她就推开窗子听。后来才知道,是我在那里拉。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说我还写了个歌呢,这样才引出这首歌。我就把歌哼给你们听听</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在暴风雨的夜里,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我怀念着你,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">窗外是夜,怒号的风,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">淋漓的雨滴,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是我心呀,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">飞出去寻找你,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你在哪里,你在哪里?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你是被放逐在辽阔的荒原,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还是尘埋在冰冷的狱底,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">啊,兄弟啊兄弟,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我的歌声追寻着你,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我的心里为你流血,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你在哪里,你在哪里?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这是林昭写的一首歌,这首歌在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">追悼会上我也唱过。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">五十</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">年代就传谣言,就说我跟她谈恋爱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">传到上头领导了,领导就找我谈话,说有没有这个事</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">?我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说没有这个事。领导说你们不要谈恋爱,你们两个右派,好好改造。然后,林昭问我谈些啥?我说不准我们谈恋爱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭一听就笑了笑问你害怕吗?我说我不害怕</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她说你不害怕,好,咱们原来还没有谈恋爱,现在就真的谈恋爱给他们看一看。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就这样,每天特别是早上十点钟做工间操,林昭就拉着我,咱们手挽着手在人民大学铁一号里头走给他们看。铁一号以前是段祺瑞的总统府,后面还修了个小花园,有个水池子,有个假山</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;我们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就在那个地方转</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你说我们谈恋爱嘛,我们就是谈恋爱,谈给你看。这样的话,我们等于真的谈恋爱了。新闻系党总支很不喜欢我,后来把我分到新疆惩罚我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也是为这个事。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">转眼时间过去了,我们俩</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在一起</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就是一年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">最后到九月一号,新的学期要开始了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">面临</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">分配,毕不毕业就那么回事,就是要把我打发走。我想一想,就找党支书记说我要跟林昭结婚</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">希望</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">59年分配的时候不要把我分得太远,要求</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">照顾一下</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是我得到的答复</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:“你们两个右派,妄想!”结果</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把我分到新疆</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">些事情我不清楚,据说林昭的母亲到北京来了一趟。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">民主人士,大概认识史良这些人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。也可能是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">找了史良,找到了吴玉</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">章</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,吴玉</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">章</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是人民大学校长。这些我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">听说,没有亲眼见到,也没见到她母亲</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来就批准林昭回上海治病。这样</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我先送林昭上火车去了上海</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我记得我回忆录里有写送她上火车的那一幕。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:您当时怎么把这个情况跟林昭说的?林昭怎么跟您讲她要回上海</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">下一步怎么办?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:她就是一句话,她叫我甘子,她说你等着我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就这么一句话</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来我送她上火车,火车要开了,我跟她在车厢里头抱头痛哭。后来火车动了,我没办法才跳下火车。当时火车一厢人都奇怪:这对年轻人怎么……,那时候互相抱着痛哭的场景很少见。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:大概二十七岁吧。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:林昭跟我同岁,实际上她比我大一岁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她妈妈生下她以后,给她隐瞒了一年,她实际上是属羊的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"> 1、第一次从新疆逃回上海</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我把林昭送走后,人民大学催我走,我才打着铺盖到了新疆。那时候火车不通新疆,到新疆跟兰州接界地方叫维亚。我就坐火车坐了四天到了维亚</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">维亚下火车,又坐三天的汽车</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到乌鲁木齐自治区人事厅报到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。人事厅</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说你到兵团去吧,就把我打发到兵团了。兵团又说,你到农二师去吧</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">农二师就是南疆,师部在延吉,现在库尔勒。我又到了延吉,在招待所等着分配。农二师招待所人来人往,有很多</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从下面劳改农场跑出来,说劳改农场艰苦啊、不人道啊,我吓坏了……</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:那些人天不亮就起来,枪杆子押着你去劳动,挑大土,而且吃不饱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">打、骂这都是家常便饭,这一说我就害怕了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">回到上海,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我去找了林昭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。但</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭的母亲对我很冷淡,林昭也没办法,就从林昭家里茂名南路出来慢慢走,从南京路走到外滩,在外滩公园。……就在外头荡,一直荡到晚上</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在想,你看上海那么大,灯火辉煌,那么多人,可是就容不下我生活在这里,真是没有办法。我家里有母亲</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有个妹妹</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都靠着我大哥生活,还有大嫂。家里我也呆不住,因为我没有钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没有户口</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也没有粮票</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没办法</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在上海呆了一个礼拜,碰上一个礼拜天,我还跟林昭在徐汇区乌鲁木齐路的耶稣大教堂做了个礼拜。最后没有办法生活,我也没有钱……</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:晚上住我哥哥家里,那时我母亲还在,但是长期住是不行的。最后还是没办法,我哥哥和嫂子又给我准备一套被子、棉衣,我从上海坐上火车到兰州,回</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">新疆。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">塔里木四场报到,就是去劳动。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就这样在新疆开始</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">生活。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">基本上</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">每个礼拜</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都要给林昭写信,林昭也给我回信</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">当然那个信是要经过检查的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劳改队里有管教,他看了以后给你寄走。信来了他也先拆掉看,然后才给你。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:信都很短</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那些信什么内容我也记不清楚了。很简短,但是都有回信。过了一段时间,我光有信去,没有回信了。没有回信我就纳闷儿,我还给她母亲写,也没有回信,没有人理我。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">和尚是给我这么解的,我也就是这么信的。所以后来,那么多年,我一直在新疆呆了二十多年,一直没有林昭的消息。只有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">79年落实政策回北京,在许觉民家里,就是我同学张沐兰家里看到她——林昭的妹妹——我才知道林昭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">被</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">枪毙了。一算这个日子,就是我做梦那个月的29号,我是5月1号做的梦</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这很奇怪。我觉得人是有灵魂的,她死了以后,她的灵魂有几天活动时间,中国老百姓不是有句话,七天要回来嘛。我估计是她的灵魂飞到新疆</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">跟我告别。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">四、见证和抄录林昭作品</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:后来您看到了林昭的十四万言书,在抄的过程中您相信这是林昭写的吗?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我相信,因为林昭的那些字,我认识。我跟林昭在一起她没事就是看书,她看那些线装书古书,都是一些笔记小说。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:记不住,都是笔记小说。而且那时候她在写诗,她写了两首诗现在还传还能看到,一首是《普罗米修斯受难</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的一</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">日》,另外</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一首是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《海鸥之歌》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这两首长诗她天天写天天改,边写边改,给我看。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:您当时就看到了这两首长诗?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:还有一个,她改编剧本,我也看到了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:就是鲁迅的《伤逝》。她写的时候就给我看,而且叫我提意见改。最后结局是捐生把狗拿到郊区又扔掉了。这两首诗,她边写边改,一直到我们分开,她还在改。林昭的字写得很秀丽,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来我抄林昭遗稿,也是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">对林昭的爱支持我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">抄的时候</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">内心很痛苦,因为想着我跟她在一起的那些情景。我也是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">以</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">很大的毅力把它抄出来,主要是胡杰</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">要,我抄一点他拿走一点</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不是说全部抄好给他的。他经常到北京来,而且胡杰把林昭十四万言字整理了一个简洁本,他给了我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他就把那些柯庆施的东西都删没有了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:您当时抄林昭很尖锐的批判,你有没有一种想法</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">:如果</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">林昭不这么做</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">,也许</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">能够保全她的生命?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我了解林昭。这共产党太恶,没有人性</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">它如果给我们这两个右派一点点生活出路,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也不至于此。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">尽管我后来回上海,她母亲对我跟林昭在一起是持反对态度的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是只要不把我们分得太远,让我跟林昭还能够接触,也许林昭不会走那么绝决的一条路</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为有我在,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我对她生活上的呵护。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我跟她两个,有些观点也是不一样的。她很激进地反对当局政权,反对毛泽东。我老劝她,我跟她说,你这是鸡蛋碰石头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她说鸡蛋碰石头我也要碰。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但我想,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">只要给我们一点活路,让我们生活在一起,林昭也是要生活的人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">让我们生活在一起,就会好一点</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。她</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不会那么激进</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但林昭的本性不会改的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我看了以后有个疑问,但是看了你那篇文章就给我解决了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我认为你那个分析是对的。因为劳改队咱们也呆过,共产党不可能让劳改分子这么逍遥法外</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这么悠然自得</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劳改犯没有时间</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没有自由</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">写作,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不可能的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在劳改队呆过,不管你是谁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,在那里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就是干活。新疆</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劳改队有个特点,因为</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">新疆</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是和平解放,解放军一去就宣布和平起义,国民党部队变成解放军,还是当连长当排长</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这些劳改队由他们来管,你想好得了吗?因为他本质就是国民党。有一个劳改队长说,我们共产党不打人不骂人,但我叫你劳动劳动劳动,你累死了我不犯错误。心太狠就狠到这种地步,他就是把人往死里整,累死你。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭能在监狱里头写出十四万言书和后来你们找到的那些东西,我心里头原有个疑问,她为什么能得到写作的自由?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">监狱怎么会</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">允许她这样干?这就是你分析的,我同意这一点</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为最后林昭闹闹闹,成为当时监狱里的所谓疯子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">而</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不可收拾。你要笔嘛,你要纸嘛,给你</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你给我安静一点,不要闹了,你去写吧。提篮桥监狱的管教人员对她也没有办法了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">其实他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">对她</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">很</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">残酷的,正铐、反铐,但是没有治服</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭还接着闹</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">闹得这些管教也伤脑筋</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。那</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你写吧,求个安静。我觉得这个解释得通。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"> </span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 0); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">以前我有个想法没有实现</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,现在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也不能实现了。我跟林昭的故事是很好的题材,也就一年,从相遇相识相恋</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">最后相离</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">能写出一篇很动人的故事,但是我写不出来。我连题目都想好了,叫《情断铁一号》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">如果写得好的话会很感人。我有时候也想写,但提起笔来就伤心,写不下去。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得你们做这些事情很有意义,再不做我们这些老家伙一个一个都走了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">走了你想做都不行了。幸亏胡杰拍了第一个纪录片《寻找林昭的灵魂》,把这个事情掀开了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:复印件有些地方不太清楚,但我是最熟悉林昭的字的,别人抄不出来。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:您抄那些批判共产党、批判毛泽东的言论是不是觉得很有冲击力?或者说您能接受吗?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我能接受,因为我的思想跟她是一致的。我在新疆呆了二十年,过着非人的生活,就是强劳动。我为什么不死,我就说我年轻,我要看着毛泽东死在我前头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我要看看这个社会</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">底</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">会</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">变成什么样,我有那么一种希望。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">对我个人来说已经完全没有希望了,右派等于终生。劳改员十年八年还有个刑期,十年八年熬满了总要解脱。这右派没有刑期,你改造好了就宣布摘帽,我是对共产党看透了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:那现在您怎么看?现在还是有很多人崇拜毛泽东,今年还要大搞纪念?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:崇拜毛泽东有个过程的。中国人说得难听一点都是愚民,思想上希望有个皇帝,希望有官是清官,是明君。几千年的封建,就形成了一个愚昧。现在有些人搞毛泽东崇拜有个人政治目的,他想提高自己的名誉、地位</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">像薄熙来宣传毛泽东有他的目的,实际上薄熙来是个笨蛋,也是政治牺牲品。像我也有这个体会,原来是盲目</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">崇拜</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所谓马列主义毛泽东思想,狗屁!这一代人都给他蒙蔽了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不光蒙蔽了我,还蒙蔽了一代人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">很多老干部跟他打江山的,最后死得多惨啊</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">比如刘少奇。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:您希望林昭的文稿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">以什么状态</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">呈现比较理想?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我希望终有一天</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这些遗稿被整理打印出来供世人观看</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有兴趣的可以研究。据我了解,北京有两拔人,一拔是铁流他那个小圈子,主要通过</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《往事》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">和找一些老干部聚会。他是对毛泽东恨之入骨的。还有一帮人,是朱毅等</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人,他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在收集整理林昭的东西</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">对这两</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">拨</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人,我内心是支持的。但是我觉得林昭留下来的这些东西,主要</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">价值</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">十四万言</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">书</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。这十四万言</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">文字</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">已经把林昭这个人、这个女孩子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的精神表现出来了。她</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在共产党那样的极权下还坚持不懈地反对毛泽东,到生命最后一刻。这个精神就值得人们敬仰和学习。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得对林昭的研究宜粗不宜细。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:哪些东西您认为是细呢?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:像你们……像朱毅现在搞这些,我不反对,这样搞出来也很好。但是,我是不会去研究的。十四万言字已经把林昭的形象树立起来了。她坚决地反对专制、反对秦始皇毛泽东,这是一个女英雄的形象。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我最早跟许觉民说过,里头关于柯庆施的部分,我们都可以理解。我也是右派,我也绝望过,我也有妄想症。人到那一步,这些毛病都是有的,也是可以理解的。不要太细去研究那些……</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">五、装死与逃亡</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">1、“扮死狗”这条路</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在新疆那二十年,在那种艰苦绝望无奈的情况下,我也妄想。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我看到这个现实,我也不甘愿被奴役下去,当个奴隶。我以前说过,我情愿当奴隶,但是我不当奴才。在新疆劳改队里头,我不是劳改员,我没有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">被</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">判刑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我是右派份子,被监督劳动改造。我认识一个国民党过去的团长,他也在劳改队。我说这日子没法过,他跟我讲,他说你有两条路</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一条路就是你积极地靠拢政府,跟连长指导员经常去汇报思想</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">去打小报告取得信任,从中间捞点好处。我说这不是我的个性,我做不出来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他说你做不出来,还有一条路,你就扮死狗,前提是你装死狗就要装到底,坚持下去。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就是劳动偷奸耍滑,磨洋工。我这二十年,走的就是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后面</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这条路。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你想,在新疆大田里头摘棉花</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">女的一天还摘两百多斤,我一天摘三斤</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在地里睡觉,我有个名字,叫甘三斤,就是我摘棉花一天只摘三斤。只摘三斤,连队晚上点名就让我站起来斗我。第二天,我还是那么几斤,第三天,我还那么几斤。斗我就斗嘛,结果到了第三天,劳改队长也觉得没有面子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我不改,就算了。你不要在大田劳动了,你去赶个毛驴车吧。毛驴车没有定量,一天就是拉草拉粪,上午一趟下午晚上一趟</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我这二十年活下来就是耍死狗,就是他说的,这个国民党团长教我的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你啊,在乌鲁木齐,库尔勒这两地方走一走,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">现在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还挺好的,歌舞升平</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我还记得林昭写的那首歌,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在新疆我想念她时我就唱这个歌。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">现在,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在河边散步没有人,我也放开嗓子唱。这首歌里她无意写的这两句</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">——</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">“你是被放逐在辽阔的荒原”</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我应验了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在新疆戈壁滩呆了二十多年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">“</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">……</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还是尘埋在冰冷的狱底”</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭应验了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她在监狱里头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">最后</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">被</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">枪毙了。但这首歌她后来给我讲过,可能是写</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">给</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">谭天荣的。我不太了解</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">反正北大之前,林昭是跟谭天荣有姐弟恋。她听见我的二胡声,她说她写了首歌,就唱给我听,反复很多遍,所以我记住了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:文化大革命时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从劳改队逃跑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从塔里木盆地的农场逃跑的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时在卡拉修艾山米尔水库,当时胆子没那么大,但已经绝望了。就靠一公斤饼干一公斤伊拉克蜜枣——那时中国有很多伊拉克蜜枣——我们有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">两</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">个人,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还有一个是一同劳动改造的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">首先,劳改队有规定</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">收工后每人要出去打柴火,背柴火</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。要背</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">三十公斤到五十公斤</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就借着打柴火这个机会走了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">跑到远远的一个沙丘的红柳下面</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">呆着不动。他们打完柴火回去吃晚饭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一点名,说甘粹和一个姓杨的没有回来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就到处找,找我们就不理他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">等天完全黑下来了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们才走。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">新疆库尔勒过后是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">尉犁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从尉犁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">再往南走,就是塔里木盆地塔克拉玛干大沙漠</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">沿着塔克拉玛干沙漠边上的河叫塔里木河,到我们那里去有一条公路,公路就沿着塔里木河修的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们两个就沿着公路,跟公路保持一两千公尺的距离走</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不敢走公路,公路上汽车来来往往很多人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">塔里木沙漠每五公里就有个三脚架,以三脚架为准,不离开公路</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不离开公路就有河,有河就有水</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样走了五十公里,到了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">尉犁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">县,进县城买点东西吃一吃,又跑到县城外面休息</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">等天黑了又出发,一直走到天亮</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">走了五十公里到库尔勒</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我跟这个姓杨的就去买点东西吃</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">走到人民商场,在门口就看见我们劳改队的警卫来抓我了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">实际上他们已经到了乌鲁木齐,从乌鲁木齐火车站没有抓到我们,就返回来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">返回以后就不太注意我们,我们俩赶快躲开</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">赶快买张车票,也是五十公里后到了延吉</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">再买汽车票到吐鲁番</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">又转到乌鲁木齐。到了乌鲁木齐后,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">发觉姓杨的是个骗子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">走以前跟我说得天花乱坠</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就跟姓杨的分开了,认识了另外两个人,这两个人从贵州跑过来,要到北京去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就跟他们一块儿坐火车上北京,在北京前前后后呆了一个月</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有个五一节晚上,我看见毛泽东和林彪坐在敞篷车上。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:4月4号经过西安,我记得很清楚,当时还下雪了。到北京住了一个月,碰到一个五一节</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">晚上,贵州这两个认识的朋友,想到天安门广场去,结果根本进不去。我说我有办法,我带你们去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为每逢过节,天安门维持秩序</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你看电视中拍的,第一排就是人民大学的学生党团员</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">原来我是在那里干事,所以我知道漏洞。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我带这两个贵州人走到西单就进不去了,在马路边上站着看组织的群众、单位、学校一拔一拔地进去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我看见人民大学这些学生进去,等他们快走完了就赶快拉着这两个贵州朋友追上去,跟着人民大学学生队伍一起进。那个地方有三排警卫,一排是解放军,一排是警察,一排是群众组织</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。有人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说“同志你不要进”,我说我是人大的。当时人大学生都戴着校徽,我本身也是人大当的学生</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我说我是人大的等于掉队的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样没人拦我,跟着人大的学生进去了。进去走到了天安门,划了很多地盘,哪个地盘是哪个单位或哪个学校,在那里围着唱歌跳舞。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们正好就挤在天安门广场</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">挨着人民大会堂的路边上</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">过了一会儿,马路两边每边有四排解放军手挽着手挡着,我一看就肯定有大官儿走这里过。果不然,毛泽东和林彪的敞篷汽车从人民大会堂出来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">要去天安门</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但走到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">XX</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">路,这些解放军都是招来的农民,也没见过毛泽东,都激动了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。这时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">队形就乱了,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都轰上去喊“毛主席万岁”</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">毛主席的敞篷汽车就开不动了。毛泽东开头还站在敞篷车上招手,后来就生气</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">地</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">坐在那里了。最后,还是林彪维持秩序说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">“让主席走让主席走”,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">才开走的。本来是到天安门主席台上看</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">焰火</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">晚会的,结果人群都乱了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我那时离毛主席的敞篷汽车也就五十米……</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:他们两个也是劳改跑出来的,是贵州的,在外头当盲流。我这眼睛只要一见着你,跟你聊两句,我就知道你是干什么的,吃什么饭的。那个时候文化大革命乱得很,坐火车坐汽车都不买票。这两个人很奇怪,有个姓周的,现在还联系上了,还在贵州毕节</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他是看铁流的《往事</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">微</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">痕》里头看到了杜光有一次讲话讲到我,就写信</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我就只能再说回去。后来回新疆,从北京走时,在王府井东安市场,我买了一套衣服</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">上身是西装,下身是裤子,脚下一双皮鞋</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样回的新疆。回新疆以后,每天要生活,至少</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">得</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">十块钱。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:十块钱还贵呀?我给你算一算,早上要吃早点,中饭吃饭,晚上吃饭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这三顿饭吃下来,再加上晚上住宿,住旅馆两块钱,大的双人床。吃的叫发糕,包谷面蒸的,最便宜的三毛钱一斤</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外我一天还得抽一包烟,一包烟那时最便宜的叫红云,一毛多钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">反正我算一算</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一天生活费得十块钱。这怎么办呢,没有收入</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我也不会骗,也不会偷,什么本事都没有。我接触很多小偷,他们还真有本事。我见过一个,我跟他说,你教我怎么摸包。我那个时候</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">个假名字姓陈,因为我母亲姓陈</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这小偷说,老陈啊,你要学,我也不教你</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你要学这个第一要学会挨打,要受得住打</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">偷东西摸包特别是开始,没有不被别人抓住的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这一抓住群众恨死了,围着你往死里打。你受得了吗?你身体那么瘦小</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他就没有教我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来我想一想,学照相得了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">讲到我照相,我花了大概一百块钱左右。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我当右派一个月32块,我走时把钱带着逃跑的。我就买个相机,买十个胶卷,再买个假证明</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">假证明那时乌鲁木齐有卖的,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就打着乌鲁木齐沙一巴克区工农兵流动服务组的牌子,来到下面小县城的农村</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">县城都不行,县城的人都到县照相馆去照。只有到农村去照,照一张相一块钱,一个胶卷能照十六张</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我前面偷一张后面偷一张</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">能照十八张。我还收了三个徒弟,这三个徒弟互相不认识,都是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">内地跑到新疆</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">即</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在乌鲁木齐,昌吉,呼图壁的公社里头当农民的。他跟着我出去照相,管吃管住</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一个礼拜我大概要照掉十个胶卷,照完就不照了,就回到乌鲁木齐</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时候就有钱了,可以住旅馆下馆子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">再把下一次要去照的材料</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都买好,包括</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">十个胶卷、显影纸</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">显</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">影粉、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">定影粉</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">等</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。后来这个徒弟回他家了,反正我跟徒弟照的钱对半分。他很感激,跟着我学技术,又分钱。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我为什么有三个徒弟呢,他们相互</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不认识</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">新疆、北疆、乌鲁木齐一年有半年时间冰天雪地</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没法活动,农民也不种地,所以我收一个徒弟给他一个礼拜在外头公社去照相,挣了钱跟他对半分</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">然后回乌鲁木齐买上下一次的材料,我一个徒弟带两个月,给一点大米钱,给一点猪肉钱,就过去了。一个徒弟带两个月,这三个徒弟就半年过去了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就把这个冬天躲过去了,开了春我又活动了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:还是照相啊。首先在农村的公社住下,它有招待所,租一间房子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">然后就给公社这些书记、队长、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">会计</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">等啪啪啪免费照一个胶卷</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一个胶卷我可以照个十六张吧</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">晚上我单独住一间,就在公社招待所里头把相片胶卷冲印出来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">第二天把相片送给书记队长</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">然后多洗一张放在照相框里头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">拿着框子我下去照相,别人一看,哦</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这是我们的书记嘛</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这是我们的队长嘛!这样</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">大家</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">照</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">相</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">了,这就是宣传。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是有一次,去了以后,那个书记就找我说你会放大吗?我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">想都</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没想就说会啊!哦,那你给我放个大大的!他说真要放,我就吓蒙了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为我没有放大机那个设备,但是海口夸出去了。后来怎么办?那天晚上我想透了脑筋给他放</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">大</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">了。怎么放呢?这照相机胶卷在里头咔嚓把相照进去,我就把照相机反过来,把胶卷底片放在里面</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。再</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把照相机底盖这边打开,用光源射进去,从照相机镜头放出去,就像放电影一样。要有灯光,而且灯光要从这个照相机里面打出去,通过镜头出去,但是这个很难,不能漏一点光。我那一个晚上,就是用这个照相机给他放了一个大的。我那一个晚上都没有睡好,就调这个光,不能漏一点光,因为相纸拿出来见光就完了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">想</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">照相</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">实际很多啊,因为下面那些公社农民和牧民,哈萨克族的都想来照相</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是没有钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">农村很苦,有的就拿鸡蛋来,有的就抱个老母鸡来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就说,这个照相是公家的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你把鸡蛋和鸡卖给我,我给你钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你再拿这个钱,一块钱照一张</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就采取这个办法</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所以说下农村我吃得好</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">吃鸡吃蛋有的是,给农民两块钱就一只鸡</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他就拿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">两块钱返给我照两张相。在劳改农场,那几年大饥荒很惨的,有些妇女你给她一个馒头,她就跟你睡觉</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没办法,很可怜的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:从北京告状没</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">成功,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">回新疆当了盲流。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:他怎么找啊?他又不认识我。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:跑了不跑了嘛。劳改队跑的人很多啊,他没法找,他也找不着我。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">4、要饭、卖烧饼</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我说我要过饭,也是这个时候。有一天,在乌鲁木齐人民公园,我带着照相机,穿着西装在那里玩。结果那时不是造反吗?造反派拿着棍子棒子把我的照相机抢了,把我身上的钱也抢了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">抢了我就发呆了,没办法了。当天晚上住旅馆的钱也没有,照相机也没有了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就在乌鲁木齐沙一巴克区那个汽车站外面</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">马路边上坐着</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有一个年轻小伙子就上来跟我打招呼</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个年青人是山东的,也是逃跑到新疆去,是个学生,我怎么认识他呢?我在乌鲁木齐馆子里吃饭,他向我要饭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">乌鲁木齐那时要饭都这样,你在馆子里坐着他就来要。后来我一看他那样子不像个要饭的,我一问,他原来是文化大革命造反跑出来的学生</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时说新疆好找工作,实际上不是那么回事。我把我吃的饭给了他,还掏了五块钱给他,所以他就认得我了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那一天他看见我坐在马路边上,想再跟我要点吃的要点钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就跟他说我没办法,连自己吃晚饭的钱都没有了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他说怎么回事?我跟他一讲,他就说,老陈,没关系,你就跟着我吧</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">只要我有饭吃你就有饭吃</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我说我还没吃晚饭呢,他就走到饭馆里去,他是去要饭。他给我要了两个馒头,都是别人吃过的,不是整馒头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">再拿来一个碗,饭馆里头开水有,酱油醋有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他倒点酱油汤端来给我吃,我那天晚饭就这么吃过了。晚上睡觉没地方,他说,走,你跟我一块儿走,他就带我东绕西绕到一个学校</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">教室里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">桌子上睡。第二天早上起来,也是他去要饭,要来给我吃。我说我拉不下脸皮,他说没关系,你跟着我吧</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他带着我在乌鲁木齐市郊区去要饭,我就这样跟他要饭要了三天。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我估计三十多岁吧。要了三天,我后来想想,这也不是事儿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我被抢了以后,就写了一封信给我上海的大哥,说我现在走投无路</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一分钱都没有了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你赶快寄点钱来。但是这要一段时间,他给我寄到乌鲁木齐邮局留交,这个不要地址的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来我跟小伙子说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样要饭也不是事儿,有没有别的办法</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他就跟我说,有办法,但是得要本钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我说要多少本钱呢,他说至少要</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">二十</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">块</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我说行,就把西装脱下来,说你帮我把这件衣服拿去卖了,卖个二十块吧。他就拿着我这衣服,在汽车站卖</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我那个衣服小啊,我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">小个子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">很多人喜欢穿但嫌它小穿不进去,就卖不掉。半天,碰见一个维族小个子,一穿穿上了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是他只</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">肯</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">给十几块钱,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">帮我的小伙子就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不卖</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我趁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不在的时候</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">“卖掉卖掉”,结果西装就十七八块钱卖了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这十七八块钱作为本钱买什么呢?乌鲁木齐有一条河,那条河叫河坝,河坝有维族人煮赌鸡蛋的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">赌鸡蛋怎么赌呢?专门有老太太把鸡蛋煮熟了,就盐茶鸡蛋在那里摆着,我跟你赌</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">拿十个鸡蛋摆一排,你从另外一个老太太那儿拿十个鸡蛋摆一排,就拿着这边鸡蛋的第一个跟你那边的第一个鸡蛋撞</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">两个蛋一撞,一个肯定破,一个蛋不破</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">撞来撞去,撞最后两个了,那一撞就定输赢</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">谁破了,谁就出这二十个鸡蛋的钱,给卖鸡蛋的老太太</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">赢的就赢这二十个鸡蛋。他要那么多鸡蛋干什么,也吃不完,他就卖</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他卖就比较便宜,熟鸡蛋八分钱九分钱就卖</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">河边去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">买他们赌博的便宜鸡蛋。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:从乌鲁木齐另外修了条路。正式的公路有,乌鲁木齐往西走到伊犁,那是正规柏油马路。但是又从山里头修一条公路,是备战的,等于打仗的时候他就不走正式公路</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">正式公路可以封锁你轰炸你,就修了名字叫国防公路。这个路是保密的,都是在山里头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">通过牧区通过农村</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我走国防公路去,是去摸摸情况,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">想</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">慢慢靠近边疆跑苏联,这是我的目的。因为新疆有个“伊塔事件”嘛,新疆几十万人跑苏联了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那个时候我没赶上,我在劳改队不知道</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是,跑苏联这是很多的事情。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:苏联啦,你去……有的全家都走,赶着牛羊、帐篷,有的县连县委书记都跑。跑去以后,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">听说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">苏联是因人而异,你是农民,叫你到集体农庄去,你是工人,他就给你分配到他的工厂去,你是什么工种</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就做什么。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说那里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">很</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">喜欢</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这些小知识分子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他就收集这些人,特别是像我这样的,右派又是大学生,他是很喜欢的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">据说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就把我们弄到莫斯科去,去培养当间谍,再派回中国。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:听说的,因为那边人来人往很多,新疆跟苏联连在一起,那都是天山和</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">塔里木河</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">阻不断的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就想去接近国防线,想办法慢慢熟悉那个地方,将来往苏联跑。我跑过去,他可以收留我,我可以给他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">工作。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为我是新闻记者,人大新闻系,而且那时我们学的还是俄文</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时我们的俄文水平</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,虽然</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">对话不行</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是拿着字典可以看《真理报》了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">结果不小心给抓住了,说我是苏修特务</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我不承认,后来就打、吊,我想不承认也吃亏</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就承认了,给他编一套特务的故事</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他就往上报,就把我往上级机关、往师部送</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">送到师部,我就讲真话了,结果师部那个审讯我的人,也是人民大学法</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">律</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">系的,后来跟他聊了聊就聊出来了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我在国防公路走,我又不认识</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">方向</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,就找当地人问路</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">前面</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">什么地方,别人给我讲,我还画图</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个路这一边到哪里去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那一边到哪里去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">结果他抓住我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我又有照相机又有图,图就是当地公路的路线图,那胆子也太大了,这样走必然要经过他们的驻地啊。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是,在师里头审讯是不打不骂的,不像在下面</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">下面是没有王法的,师里头审讯比较正规。我又说一个假的,不到一个礼拜,他又调查回电了,说你又说谎</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">共产党厉害就在这里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他就说你不要再说假的了,咱们弄不清你的身份到底是不是特务,就把你关着,一直关死你。我这样一想不对头,我在那里关了四十天小房间,后来想想不行了,我就给送饭的说,我要找你们管教</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">然后才把我从牢里提去问我,我说我说实话吧</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我说我是农二师哪个团跑出来的牛鬼蛇神,这次我说了真名字真地点</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他们马上跟农二师联系,农二师说对啊,我们有这人,跑掉了。马上农二师就派一个政治股的干事,还有个警卫,拿着枪,拿着铐子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">跑到这里一看是我,就把我铐上铐子,用汽车装回塔里木。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"> 1、十七岁参军</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">问:您和林昭都较早参加革命,您的经历是怎样的?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">甘:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">1949年,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">十七岁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">参军</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我家里不是地主,也不是资本家,属于城市职员,公司职员,属于这个阶层。参军以后,在南京学习了三个月,就进军西南,跟随二野的部队。但是我们不打仗,前面部队打仗,打了走了,我们就跟着部队后头走。我们这条线,是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">湖南长沙、常德这条线进的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">通过贵州、四川交界处进的四川</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">经过秀山,邮阳</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">解放军就是我们这一路</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在四川和湖南交界地方有一个山很高,叫白马山</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在白马山打了一仗,国民党大概抵抗了一下就失败</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这解放军就跟着国民党溃退的军队,去解放重庆了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">往重庆那边走,我们就跟着解放军打仗的部队后面走。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们去的路线是从上海</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">南京,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我先</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在南京学习,到南京住在国民党财政部,那时候集训了三个月,就请这些头头,邓小平、李</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">富</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">春等给我们上大课,上课以后就讨论。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">学习完从南京坐火车到徐州</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">再通过陇海线到郑州,郑州下来到武汉,武汉又坐火车到长沙。长沙汨罗江的铁桥,给国民党炸掉了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们坐火车到那里下,开始徒步行军。我们叫学生军</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">学生部队,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人员</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都是上海的,主要是大中学生。开头一天,行军才走</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">三十</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">华里,我们就觉得很累,叫苦连天</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">最后慢慢锻炼,基本上一天也能走七十</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">八十里路</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是,走白马山就不一样了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">白马山高,分四季,下面是晴天,走到山的中间,就雾蒙蒙的,下雨下雪</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">再往上走下雪,走到山顶就结冰了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">冰雪天气。这个山我们从下面往上爬,等于四季都经过了。那一天,我们走了一百三十里路,因为那地方才打过仗,公路旁边全是死人,全是打死的国民党……枪啊炮啊弹啊在我们行军路边上都是。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:十七岁,队里还有女孩子,很害怕。因为害怕</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那天</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">才走了一百三十里路。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:看见死人就害怕,很惨的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:在那里打了一仗,那肯定是给解放军打死的嘛。而且,国民党跑了,解放军就追过去了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">当地山区那些农民很苦,就把这些死掉的国民党的人的衣服扒掉自己穿。战场都没有清扫,很</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">可</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">怕的死人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所以那一天我们都走得快,走了一百三十里路,平常我们就走个七十里八十里就住下了。然后,我们这些人在南京学习时就分配好的,照着四川的编制你到哪个县,你这个队长去当县长,你某某某当政委</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个县有一区二区三区四区,某某某到一区当区长、当区委书记……都分配好了。 </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">部队就去解放重庆去了。还有就是我们走的路上经过那个彭山,现在很有名的那个城啊,全部给烧了,也是很惨的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:国民党部队走的时候烧的。战争讲起来很残酷,我们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的部队没有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">直接</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">重庆去,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">而是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">走去川东了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">2、参加征粮剿匪</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们这个中队,已经分配好去万县,支队长就是川东万县地委书记。到了川东各就各位,川东实际上是林彪的部队四野,第四野战军从长江进川;彭德怀从西北进川;二野是走南边贵州进川。我们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">之后接管</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">国民党的政府,我在地委</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">里负责</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">群众运动的群运部</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">去之后就下到农村,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">任务</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">叫“征粮剿匪”。要吃饭呢,就征粮食</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">“征粮剿匪”</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们是五个人到一个区,然后分配你到乡</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时候共产党想了办法,由区长招集国民党那些旧乡长开会,就说我们这几个同志交给你,你带回去干什么干什么</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">如果出了问题,首先枪毙你。我们大概两三个人,就分到四川万县的河口乡,晚上就住在乡公所。那时我们每个人都带一支长枪,就是日本盖子枪,步枪上面有个盖子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那个枪比较短一点,三八式那个步枪就长</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。我们就到乡里去征粮,口号是“征粮剿匪”。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时候土匪多得很,不得了都是土匪。这乡长想了个办法,就把国民党的旧保长招来在乡里开会,开会说共产党要征粮,每个保要交多少斤。甘同志就交给你这个保长,他如果生病出什么问题,首先枪毙你。他就一层一层地把我们放下去,否则我们一下去马上都被杀掉了,因为这些乡长、保长他有家,他还是害怕,所以就不敢动我们。土匪都跟他是相窜的。晚上就住在乡公所,把乡长拉着跟我们一块儿住</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们五个人都商量好,晚上四川那些土匪在乡公所外头打锣敲鼓,但我们不出乡公所,他也不进来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为乡长大概也给他们打了招呼,如果他进来把我们杀掉,这乡长的命也没有了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样呆了两三个月,把粮食征了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那完全强迫命令。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">征粮剿匪搞完了,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">分配我们去接管</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">四野十一军要走,就把他们解放的政权</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">——</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">县政府、市政府、报社等交给我们。我们被分配到报社去,实际上我不高兴,因为我读中学的时候是喜欢数学,不喜欢文。每个礼拜不是有两小时要作文吗?我就头疼,我写来写去也就那么几句:光阴似箭或日月如梭,不知不觉又到了什么……就是这个开头。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">现在叫我去到报社,我不喜欢,我喜欢搞学生工作,什么青年团又唱歌又跳舞,那时候年轻。但是没办法,只能服从组织。分配去以后,我们四个人两男两女,两女当校对,我们两个男的一个当记者一个当编辑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。四野的同志</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把工作交给我们,他们就走了。那个时候办的报纸叫《万县新闻》,报纸没有消息,全是新华社的电讯稿。报社还有七八个译电员,都是国民党报社留下来的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">通过收音接受新华社电讯,再从阿拉伯字翻成文字。我们就看一看</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">圈一下,想个标题就发了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">原来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">报纸一天到晚就是刊登这些内容,我们去了以后就开始变了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;我们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">刊登一点本地新闻,本地新闻就是我们去采访。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">以前</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还没有当过记者</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,在这里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我写的第一篇稿子是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">关于</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">三八妇女节开会</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">原十一军在报社的一个女同事带我去,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">坐在主席台旁边。开会一下就过去了,回来以后,女同事叫我写会议报道,我不会写,硬着头皮写</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">写了以后她给我改,我第一篇新闻稿子就是这个</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样当了记者。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这一考就到北京来了,这一百多个</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">学生</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都是调干生。那是1955年,我已经评了行政级别是行政二师级。但是,开头还是包干制,一个月29块钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没有照级别拿,叫薪级制</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这行政二师级一个月大概50多块钱,就这个水平。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一到北京,咱们这一百个人分了四个班</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一个班叫中央报社班,一个班叫广播班,一个班叫出版班——都是出版社来的编辑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还有个班叫地方班,地方报纸的班。我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">被</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">分到一班</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,就是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">中央报纸这个班</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">49年参军,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">50年入团,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">54年入党。从上海参军的这些青年学生</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">中</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我入党算是晚的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一般他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">51年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">52年都入党了,我一直拖到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">54年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也不是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">成分不好,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">而</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我个人英雄主义,自高自大,不听领导的话,就拖到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">54年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们新闻系一百多个学生,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">只</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有七八个团员,其他全是党员。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:对,新闻。因为它要求学员来之前都是正式</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">记者编辑,而且是所谓组长以上的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;那</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就是说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">培养出来,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">作为报社的中层新闻干部。那时候人民大学整个学校几千人都是调干生,大部份是团员,但是党员不像我们新闻系那么多。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">57年反右以后,人民大学开始改变性质,向普通大学走,开始招高中生</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">进入本科</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">1、认识林希翎</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我在人民大学学习很努力,因为我就是个高中生,高一的,高中都没有毕业</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们有一些同学岁数比我大,学习跟我就相差得很远,我反正也自高自大,瞧不起他们。结果我发现咱们中央报社班很多女同学,都是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">民日报</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这些中央一级报纸头头的老婆,而且有的是走后门进来的。我看不惯,就写了一篇小品</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">中国青年报</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不是有一个副刊叫</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">“</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">辣椒</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">”吗</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">专门</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">登批评文章的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">时兴的是刘宾雁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">式</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的小品</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">揭露现实的黑暗</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">刘宾雁写了很多,我心里头是崇拜刘宾雁的。我后来就把这些现象写了篇小品,名字叫《新官太太》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">结果在《中国青年报》“辣椒”刊登了,刊登以后《中国青年报》接到很多全国各地几百封来信。那时全国都是考试读大学,你在走后门,引起公愤呢!</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">接着</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">问,说是人民大学新闻系甘粹写的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来问</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我,我说我写学校的事,某某某是怎么回事,某某某……因为我都有事实的。上面稍微追查了一下,就不过问了,不了了之。那时候新闻系系主任是安</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">岗</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人民日报</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">》</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的副总编辑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样我就把系领导得罪了,所以我当右派,也不冤,该当。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">1957年反右前我就认识</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林希翎</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,但</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">并不认识我。那时我们新闻系有一个副教授叫汪精丁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">(名字待核实</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> )</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,在南洋跟郁达夫这些人一起呆过的。他是副教授,要转评正教授</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">必须要有学术著作</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他就写了篇论文,论文的内容大概是文学创作与世界观的关系,题目我记不住了。人民大学的新闻系、历史档案系等都在城里头,而其他大部分什么财经系</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">等等</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都在西郊。咱们就贴个布告,说新闻系某位副教授定于哪一天在什么地方宣讲他的论文</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们是他的学生,必然是他的听众。结果那一天开始时,在一个很大的教室,前面摆了两排铺上白布的沙发,茶几</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">请</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">来的都是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">北京文学界头头脑脑,后面就是我们这一帮他的学生。好,开始了,这个教授就把他的论文提要宣读了一下,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他读完了;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">主持</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">讲师就请前面这些头头脑脑讲话,那个意思就是捧场</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">前面两排坐沙发的人互相推让</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">着</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我们后面有一个女孩子</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说:“我想发言,可不可以?”。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我一听很奇怪,回头一看,是个跟我们岁数差不多的小姑娘。主持没办法,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说可以可以,你上来吧。她上去首先自我介绍,说我是法律系的陈海果,今天到城里来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那个时候城里到西郊每天都有人民大学班车,开来开去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她说我坐班车来看见那个广告,因为喜欢文学,所以来听一听。她开头讲了两三句,说这篇文章也写得不错,但是,话一转,她把我们副教授写的这篇文章批得狗血淋头,那时候我们都炸了,因为她的批判不是随便乱说,都是引经据典,有根有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把他这篇学</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">术</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">论文批得一塌糊涂</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:反正</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">57年反右以前,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">55年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">或</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">56年的事情。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">可能是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">56年,她回来读研究生吧。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:但是鼓励大鸣大放是5月份,那也是人民日报发了文章,各界开始发言</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">这个时候人大新闻系是个什么状态</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">您是什么状态?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">组织辩论会,城里人民大学这一块就归我管</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为我是城内学生会的秘书长,具体事务、组织会议、会展由秘书处管</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我主持这个会议</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">下面都是组织好的左派学生,一个个上去批判她。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林希翎</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在主席台旁边站着,她那时跟胡耀邦的秘书谈恋爱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那一天她手里拿着中央内部文件,是赫鲁晓夫</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的秘密</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">报告</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">当时我还不知道,她就问我可不可以发言,我说当然可以啊。她就发言,说着说着她就讲到赫鲁晓夫这个报告,她说你们要感兴趣我念给你们听</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">下面就不干了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">左派学生,那时人民大学副校长聂真——王前的丈夫——就在主席台幕后,马上递话给左派,不能让她讲。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">实际上反右是毛老头发起的,现在我反思一下,中国什么人都有,他有政策,有布置</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">实际上就是人整人。我主要就是得罪了党支部书记,你在单位里得罪了党支部书记,你就要挨整</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">要划右派</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。这</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就变成私人报复打击了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">为什么把我划成右派不划别人呢?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我平常在学校里瞧不起他们,他们读书比不上我,确实比不上我。再慢慢反思一下,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不管在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">哪个单位</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">哪个地方,你平常不服从领导瞧不起领导的人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没有一个不倒霉的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外,打成右派的命运也不一样。有的右派,就是咱们人民大学新闻系,我是因为后来跟林昭谈恋爱,激怒了新闻系领导,就偏把你分到新疆去。但是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">下一年级,我是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">59年这一届毕业的,还有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">60年毕业的右派,他们比我还多</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">分到贵州、云南,都在省</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">会</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、大学里头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。他们在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">图书馆里头当管理员</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,属于</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">监督劳动,就不像我在新疆劳改队里劳改</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外还有几个右派,就留在人民大学新闻系,一直留到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">79年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他们没有受多少苦,但是被整被人们瞧不起</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">低着头,这是事实</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不是去做</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">体力劳动</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,不是劳动</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">改造</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这不也过来了嘛。还有人民大学有个人叫吴尚宇,也是右派,但是他们没有受那么多苦。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外,我一个同学陈敏,她也是右派,但是她丈夫是钟佩章,原来《中国青年报》的副总编辑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他也打成右派,他原来是跟胡耀邦,团中央的,当然也受到压制</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到山东去劳动,所谓那个劳动,跟我们在劳改队劳动是两回事。后来胡耀邦说一句话,就让他重新入党,重新安排工作</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">再说艾青在新疆,他是王震要去的,也在兵团</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">听说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他享受的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">处级待遇</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">县团级的待遇,不像我们每天要扛着锄头去劳动</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他不会,王蒙也不会</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">王蒙也发配到新疆,但是他是通过自治区发配到地方,地方发配到县,县里头发配到公社,等于当农民</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那是自由的,没有什么监督劳动</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所以右派的命运也不一样。我现在想,有些人人心太恶,人整人。你千万不要得罪单位的领导党支部书记什么的,得罪他他就整你</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">搞运动把你当反面教材。我就这样在新疆前前后后呆了二十几年,新疆那种日子很难讲。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:你还辩什么辩啊</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">真是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">!没有辩的,不可能辩</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你越要申辩,越遭到批斗啊。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:没有,越辩越倒霉。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">再说申辩,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来我在新疆二十几年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,年年申辩。当时情况是这样,在劳改农场,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">每年的五一、国庆节、元旦、春节,只有这几个节日</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">放假。每次放假在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">三天以上</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的情况下</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我才能得到一天真正的休息。劳改农场如果放两天假他至少叫你干一天的活,这一天活不是大田干活,是叫你挖三十公斤甘草,打六十公斤柴火</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有这个定额任务,而且要过称</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你完不成就没有饭吃。平常放假,我们是十天</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">算</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一个礼拜,叫大礼拜。过大礼拜也要安排挖三十公斤甘草,在沙漠里头你自己去找去挖,或者打六十公斤柴火</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是个强劳动力,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">要得半天才能完成,何况我不是。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所以说我逢</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">几个长假时间,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">才</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有一天才能得到真正的休息。而每一次这种假日,我都不休息</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就写信,给党中央、组织部申辩</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我这个右派是冤枉的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是都没有回信,石沉大海</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。那</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">二十几年,年年这样的假期我都要写一封信,我心里是不服的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到后来就不写了,对共产党认识了也就不写了,没办法。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在我们劳改队里头,什么人都有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">兵团开发新疆时主要的基础</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">国民党的部队,今天宣布</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">起义</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">明天就是解放军了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。用这些人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">来管我们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外全国各个劳改队,各个省</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">市县</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的劳改犯,十五年以上徒刑的人,全部</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">送新疆给兵团</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">兵团就集中劳改队</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">开垦荒地。还有我没有经历过,但是听说过,有劳改队去开矿,那也是灭绝人性的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">什么矿呀?是制原子弹的铀矿,叫挖绿宝石矿石</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到那里去活不到三年,最后过不了五年都病死</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就是因为矿石的辐射</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是我没有到那里去,我们劳改队形形色色的人都有,国民党的军官、大地主、还有我说过的峨眉山的和尚</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还有一个</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">跟华国锋还是同学,他跟我们讲华国锋在大学跟他同班的故事</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有一个年轻的中学生,在四川因为吃不饱闹学潮,给抓起来判刑送到新疆劳改队</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个人说话有点神颠颠的,他姓赵,叫赵四横</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们都不叫他赵四横,给他取个名字叫赵科学</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那劳改队不讲理,你只要不听管教的话,戴脚镣,戴手铐,那是家常便饭。林昭不是写戴反铐戴了多少天嘛。戴脚镣,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">戴了铁的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">脚镣还要你劳动,还要挑土。有一次我跟我们的班长</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">吵起来了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,他也是个劳改员,那班长跟管教一说,结果我就受处罚了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">晚上</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我被</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">反铐起来,铐了一个礼拜才给我把铐子去掉。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:这个不管你的,没有法律的。我刚才说的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">赵</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">科学,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">跟我岁数差不多大</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他也就是个高中文化</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有一次,劳改队师部师长下来视察,劳改员都站一排,请师长讲话</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个赵科学他说:报告</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">政府,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我有话说!没有办法就让他说,他就说新疆盐碱地开荒是违反科学的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他去讲这些名堂,师长听听也就哈哈一笑就走了。从此他就得了个名字,大家就叫他赵科学。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他已经劳改期满了,但是新疆</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那里对他这种人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就叫劳改刑满人员,还是不让</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">走;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就是给你工资</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劳改员没有工资,每个月国家按人头发给劳改队每人28块钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">钱由劳改队掌握,给你伙食费</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外规定夏天三套单衣,冬天是两年一套棉衣棉裤</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">每个人发5毛钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,即</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所谓零用钱。我们当右派在那里跟</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劳改员</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不同,每个月</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">32块钱生活费</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这32块钱每个月发到我手上,我再拿这32块钱在食堂买饭票买菜票。劳改员是不发他手上,由政府掌握。结果那个赵科学,他后来逃跑了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。但在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">新疆那个戈壁滩,没有办法生活</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在劳改队外面的荒漠,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">自己挖一个地窝子,上头搭一个棚子,再从我们队里偷一些粮食,在那里开</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">伙</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劳改队就最怕你逃跑,你有什么冤屈,你要纸他就给你,你写我给你转。他就给你讲,判你的不是我们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是外面哪个县哪个市,我们只是接收你这个人在这里劳动改造</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劳改犯跑了说明他管教不严,对他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">成绩</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有影响。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">结果,赵科学跑了,他们就找</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">找到最后,队上的一个警卫,还有卫生员,在荒野里头把他找着要抓他回来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他反抗不回,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">因为</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">知道回来更没有好处</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">结果警卫就一枪把他打死了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那个人命啊,跟死了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">条</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">狗一样。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来时间等长了也就绝望了,大概是这样。文化大革命闹得厉害的时候,大概是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">67年还是68年,就是这里头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我是3月17号跑的,逃跑时作了准备</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">首先,我不是还有点钱嘛,这劳改队的钱都被指导员、队长搜去了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就怕你跑,他说替你保管。我那时每个月32块钱,去掉吃饭,能剩个几块钱吧</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样攒了一百多块钱,在队长指导员手里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我不知道用个什么借口</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把钱要回来了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">然后</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">买了一斤伊拉克蜜枣</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一斤饼干,我说的是公斤。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:那时不是有个定量吗?原来我们干体力劳动的时候,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">像</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">挖排渠体力活重,每天</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">定量两斤粮食</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也就是说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">每个月有五十多斤到六十斤定量</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">国家给的定量有那么多,平常一般的定量是每个月三十几斤。但是大饥荒时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">定量就变成了十八斤,这十八斤根据人头来给。劳改队里头有个事务长,由他管这些事,还有个炊事班,粮食由他根据定量到农场团场场部的面粉加工厂,在那里加工出来领粮食领面粉</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">每人每月定量十八斤</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是我们吃不到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">为什么?这炊事班的炊事员有十几个他不定量,趟开肚子吃</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外连队队长、指导员、会计、统计他们也是在厨房里头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">随便吃。他们多吃的部分也就是我们劳改员的,所以说劳改员定量虽然是十八斤,但实际上吃不到那么多。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那个时候发明</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">“高产饭”,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把包谷面打成糊糊上笼蒸,很薄很软,一个人也就巴掌那么大一片</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">像手那么厚叫发糕,那怎么吃得饱啊?吃不饱,饿,也是饿</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">饿到什么程度呢?我后来不是给你讲过,我就给我哥哥妹妹写信</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">让他们寄饼干水果糖猪油。还有把毛衣这些都脱掉,给维族人换肉吃。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">新疆</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那里有维族人放牧,放羊放牛的维族老乡,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">拿衣服</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">给他换肉换羊吃。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到最严重的时候,也不上工了,也不像过去天不亮就把你赶起来到地里去劳动,就放任了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">每天早上起来也没事,就拿个缸子,带上锄头,就出去了。大家分散各走各路,到外面找野菜</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">找了野菜放在缸子里头,找点水这么煮一煮就吃。我有时候偷麦子,春天麦子要播种了,麦子是撒了农药的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你拿来先洗,洗上好几遍,再跑戈壁滩荒漠上</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把那些树枝挖一个坑,烧一堆大火</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">等树枝烧完了成了火炭,再拿报纸把偷来的麦子包上,丢到坑里头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。先</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">用烧的热沙把它埋上,过一段时候再扒开</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">吃那个麦子、麦粒,就这么过来的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我说没有饿死,主要靠哥哥妹妹每两三个月给我寄一个月的粮票</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时候饿啊</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有的一个劳改队全饿死,没办法。饿就是人开始发肿,从脚开始肿,一直肿,肿上过了腰,就没救了。那时医生卫生员,你生病了,没有药,也就是给你发一点黄豆,叫救命豆,也就这样。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">3、逃跑被抓回之后</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没有整我,像劳改员要加刑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这些</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">对我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都没有。但是给我讲,你得在劳改员大会上作一个狠狠的检讨。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">要我检讨,说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">共产党的法网是铜墙铁壁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">像甘粹这样能干的人,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也抓到了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那些劳改员都知道,甘粹很有本事,除了不会生小孩,别的都会</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把我说到这个程度</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我检讨说“碰得头破血流”</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">被抓回来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。他们的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">目的就是教育劳改员不要跑,跑在外头没出路,起这个作用。我就根据他的意图作了检讨报告,就放了我一马,没有别的处分。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:就劳动改造</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">每天天不亮就扛着锄头,带上扁担就去地里劳动。我后来想一想总结了一下,逃跑在外面的日子很自由,但是也不自由</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">经济压力太大,因为你每天要生活,要吃饭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在外头当流浪汉时,一天得有十块钱才过得去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">两块钱住旅店那个大通铺,另外再一天三顿饭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我还要花一毛多钱买烟,那时候我还抽烟不戒。这一天十块钱我不会偷也不会抢,就靠照相挣钱。后来我也累了,干脆就在劳改队里头劳动,求个稳定。在劳改队,有坏处也有好处,坏处是每天劳动确实太累,好处是文化大革命斗啊斗地我们都免了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在劳改队他还斗你什么呀,所以说文化大革命那些我都没有经历,等于劳改队又是个保护伞。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我想起来,那时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">天不亮就出去劳动,太阳落山了天黑了才回来。我们劳改员住一个大房子,二三十个人都是通铺。有些劳改员回来发现</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他吃的东西给偷了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">什么</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">东西来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">偷</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">呢?有猫!有一只黑的花猫,偷吃了劳改员的饭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个劳改员也狠,抓住猫狠狠</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">地</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">打</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在房子外面想摔死它,摔了他就走了。我看了心里不忍,去把猫捡回来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">猫摔断了一条后腿,我就护理这个猫</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">给它断腿外头找两个棍子夹着,然后缠起来,我也只能做到这个。缠起来以后,我就喂它,为了它我还专门跑去买鱼罐头</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">鸭子罐头来喂。喂了半个多月快一个月,它好了,腿这两个骨头大概接上了,反正我是不懂。以后这个猫就跟着我,它就在我床上守着</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">早上我走了,晚上我回来吃,也给它吃一点。喂了一段时候,小花猫怀孕了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">怀孕了我就没有办法了,我就把它抱到麦场</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那个地方老鼠多,麻雀多,我把它放在那里,那儿离我们住的地方有两三里路呢</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我说对不起,我没法再养你了。这个猫就记住我了,每天晚上它从麦场跑到我睡觉的地方,从窗子跳进来,跳到我床上,对我闻一闻。又过了一段时候,它又带着小猫,是它生的,来看我</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你说这个怪不怪</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来,我走了,我们这个劳动又出差了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">去水库,割苇子,就再没见着它。就这一只猫,通人性,它知道我是它救命恩人。说到这里我给你讲个事情,我不是买鸭子罐头来喂它吗?那一箱罐头是24个</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">买罐头我不可能买一箱,礼拜天我去场部赶场买东西,咱们这些劳改狱友就叫,老甘,你给我带一个!这个带一个那个带一个,就凑够一箱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就去买了背回来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但有一次背回来一箱24个罐头少一个</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">第二个礼拜我再去找那个商店</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他就不承认了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他们说罐头都没有开箱,怎么会少一个?但是我就遇见了。现在我要买什么东西,都要当面打开点一下。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:一块多将近两块钱一个,我一次</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也只有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">买一个罐头的钱</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">没有多的钱。这样,我吃了一次亏</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">又花了钱又出了力,结果有一个是空的。有个劳改员就悄悄对我说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">老甘,你真傻,以后你就不要给他们带东西</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他们叫你买东西你都答应,把钱收了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">结果你说合作社关门,回来再把钱退给他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说起</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劳改队</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还有好多右派兵团都收啊。兵团里头什么右派都有,上海第二医学院的一个右派,现在</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在上海</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我跟他在32团塔里木农场认识,现在还联系。上个月我到上海</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还去他家拜访他。他也是从塔里木劳改农场跑回上海,但他不是劳改员,身份不同。跑回上海这么多年,刚开始自己打工,拉板车过生活。现在还在上海住着,比我小十岁</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还有一个在上海化工学院叫许天道,他是厦门的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">原来是厦门鼓浪屿多少号,现在没有联系,忘掉了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还有个上海交通大学的胡启华,也是右派。这些都是人才,兵团收去干什么</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">劳动!不把你当人看。像我们这些右派,你可以利用啊,它都不用。像中学里缺老师,我可以教书吧,不用的!(</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">插话:您还是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">教过一段</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是吗</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">),我教过一年两年。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:劳改员嘛,还成什么家?除非你劳动刑满了,所谓叫刑满就业人员,但也不放你走,还在那里。就是所谓你有公民权了,可以让你回家或者在新疆找老婆成家。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">北京这个同学叫陈敏,给我写了封信,说中央有个55号文件,右派一律改正,你回北京来吧。我接到他的信,就正式打报告请假,我说要到北京去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我是右派不是劳改员</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">后来</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">得到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">批准</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就从新疆跑到北京</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在北京站下了火车,坐蹦蹦车,不是出租车,是蹦蹦车,到我同学家去。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">然后</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她就替我去找人民大学,我自己也到人民大学去,它</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有个右派落实政策办公室。人民大学有招待所,就给我安排在那里住</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但有时候我不住,晚上还是回到我同学这里,在三里屯。那时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我同学</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她丈夫官复原职,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">通过他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">找到当时人民大学副校长张腾孝,说我这个事情。校长就找人民大学党委组织部部长,那时右派改正根据政策,我应该是在新疆安排工作</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">先恢复党籍</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">恢复工作</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">恢复工资级别。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我就自己找工作,当然我这个同学钟佩章也想了办法。我还到杭州去了一趟,找了浙江大学,浙江大学党委书记接见了我,看了信以后也是推托</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我们是工科大学,不是文科大学,你学文的,我们不好安排。后来我同学</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">知道了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">又写封信,说你到浙江义乌去,义乌地委宣传部长跟她以前是同事。结果我没有去,我去了在那里干啥?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">可以安排到义乌剧团当编剧,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">义乌剧我都没有看过都不懂,当什么编剧啊</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就没有去。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:没有赔的,右派不赔的。文件大革命整的老干部,全部赔工资</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但是右派不赔,右派叫改正,不叫平反</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一个钱都不给。所以说现在右派不服气,要求补二十年工资。现在我也不想补,补也补不了几个钱。二十年前几十块钱一个月,补不了多少钱。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">天安门广场聚集那么多学生,清华大学</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">北京大学</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">、</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人民大学都在那里安营扎寨,每一个大学都搭一个帐篷,竖一旗杆,旗杆上挂着他们的校旗。实际上从我的经历来看,六四不应该发生这些流血事件</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到后头,学生已经没有劲了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">学生形成一个什么情况呢?天安门上倒是有个帐篷,中国人民大学一个旗子竖着,但是实际帐篷里面没有人了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都是学生自己轮流值班</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这些大学都是这样的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那时候如果</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">像</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">赵紫阳那样处理,就软着陆,完了没事了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">当然现在揭露说,李鹏、陈希同等在邓大人那里假汇报,把学生这个事情汇报得太厉害了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">最后邓大人就下令调军队来镇压,走个极端化。在调军队来镇压的时候,还发生了这样一个事情,我现在脑子记不住了,还可以查得到</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是调哪一个军进北京,那个军长(叫什么名字可以查得到的,我现在记不住了)</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">(答:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">38军军长</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">徐勤先)</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不同意,就把那个军长撤了,那个军长后来倒霉了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到六月三号晚上,就听见天安门那里枪声放鞭炮一样,叭叭叭叭叭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">六月四号一早我就跑到天安门,进不去就走到天安门往东</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,那里</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">有公安部,公安部对着有条路叫南河沿吧</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从那条路出到天安门</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">虽然进不去,但是看得见。天安门里头全部坦克群,一排一排地摆着</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">另外解放军拿着枪在那里,阻挡这些人进不去。而且北京人有个特点,喜欢看热闹,这老百姓都爱主动去看。后来解放军就轰这些人,轰了不行就开枪,这一开枪老百姓就跑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这个我在那里亲自看见的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就在公安部门口,有一辆大的公共汽车给烧掉了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">本来学生</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">把这些公共汽车摆在马路中间做路障,阻止解放军进城</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">实际上是六月三号晚上开始镇压的,这个本身可以避免,主要就是邓大人。邓小平这也是他的转折点,从此形象就跟毛泽东一样,也是个极权统治者,也就露出了共产党、法西斯独裁的本来面目。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">六四我天天去看,有时候也随着社会科学院的游行队伍到天安门去游行</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我每天记下来,记的时候突然想到林昭。现在我的写法是记日记的形式,记了一个月,这里头前面就是当天的情况,全是事实,有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">学生的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">请愿书,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">学生什么时候</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">提出要求</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">等。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这些</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">都是那时</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">报上发表</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我作为日记形式给它记下来。下面一部分,就是我回忆林昭的事情,采取这样一个写法</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这种写法别人还没有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我想这文学写作我就不同于他们</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所以这个《北大魂》等于是两部份,前面一部份日记,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">关于</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">六四那一个月的情况</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">怎么发生</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,一些具体事情;后面一部份就是我回忆和林昭的事情</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《北大魂》就是这么一个内容。这学生要求民主要求科学,五四运动它也是打着这个旗号</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">六四实际上也是学生民主运动,给共产党镇压下去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就在这一点上是有联系的,所以我这个书的名字叫《北大魂》。因为要系统</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">地</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">写</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">林昭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,我没有那个精力</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">这样就写成日记</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">每一篇日记里头想到林昭一点东西,就提林昭一点,不是系统的,不是全面的,操作起来写起来就方便一点。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:没有出版,这个书是六</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">·</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">四那一年我写的,两个月写出来。那个时候很有激情,写出来的稿子给这个看给那个看,就没有出版</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">胡杰帮我打印了一份</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我找不到地方出版</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">找香港也找不着,我也没有这方面的人。最后,瞎猫碰着死老鼠,我有个朋友到加拿大探亲,我就把这个稿子复印了一份</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">那么厚啊</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">给他带到加拿大,从加拿大寄到台湾。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我那时候想,能出版就行</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不要稿费,我要</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">五十</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">本书。结果他就寄来合同,我跟他签订合同。他遵照诺言出版,给我寄了五十本书。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">问:您那时候天天去</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">广场</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">六</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">·四</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">后来搞清查,您怎么过关呢?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">答:社科院很简单,因为我每天去,连写这个书,社科院都不知道。我也豁出去了,因为写这个书,台湾一出版,共产党肯定知道</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">他要找我麻烦不是不可能,我也就豁出来不怕了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">我突然想起来了,林昭私下给我讲过,王前跟林昭在一起时告诉林昭,说她原来是河北一个有钱人家的小姐</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">读书、进步、靠拢共产党,这样跑到延安去,等于是进步青年跑到延安。去了以后,那时时兴组织介绍,组织部长给她介绍刘少奇</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">王前开头还不同意,不同意就劝说她</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">王前最后跟组织上这么说,“我现在还是个姑娘,我还没来例假呢!”结果共产党组织就说,没来例假没关系</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">……</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">她第一次来例假之后第二天就结婚。另外还有一个,刘少奇当选中华人民共和国主席,那一天报纸来了,王前看着报纸,就自言自语</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">地</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">和林昭说了一句,说“他胖了”。这是林昭后来,我跟她在一起,她讲给我听的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">2014年3月25日 根据采访录音整理</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">备忘:感谢邓传彬协助记录采访录音稿,感谢吴娟做整理校对。我最后对校订稿作了压缩和整理。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">为阅读方便,对内容作了时序调整,例如将谈反右的集中在一起,将回忆新疆劳改的叙述调整到一起;未完全照录音时间顺序。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">2013年4月29日 </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">甘粹先生灵岩祭酒辞</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">——林昭殉难四十五周年祭</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">自梦中你一袭白衣扶棺西陲向我无声地走来……姐姐,龙华桃红已经第四十五度!我们在上海乌鲁木齐教堂前最后诀别,近五十四年了!最后那次灵岩祭别也倏忽九载!可我再也不能灵岩亲祭你了!特恳托朱毅代我在姐姐自由碑前打开这两瓶祭酒——他曾清明万佛高处陪我南祭,更见证张元勋先生一笔一划“雕刻”你,见证我一稿一稿、一雕一雕审你,见证你的闺姐倪竞雄、你的上铺程一瑛千里万里南来——我们一道陪伴她们来铁玫瑰园看你!</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">六酹碑前,三洒长空 :九酹的碧天翠地之间,是耄耋之我苍老凄凉的又一声声“姐姐”!——呼唤永永远远36岁的你!比地老天荒更其苍老! 凄凉得一如我面对《灵耦絮语》悲吟低回刘天华之《病中吟》…….而你,我的姐姐!——我的猫咪!你一定在天国热泪盈眶地推开那扇二楼的窗子再度倾听!…….</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一品景芝,百味人生:六道金圈,两擎庄严典雅的深蓝色天柱——天与地这样的维纳斯杯之间,我们在继续大清海军部庭园或天坛、景山、团城、金水桥畔的相挽而行吗?……你我一定在深情回首《灵耦絮语》中两个天涯沦落人那真实而永恒的絮语——</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">你则更正我道:除非我们自己分开,别让人家把我们分开!</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一下子我们两个又都笑了——仍然忧郁而悒抑的笑!我还是说:你看,姐姐——我总是叫你姐姐——一句话里鲜明地表达了两种不同的性格! (参见《林昭:灵耦絮语》236节)</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是“人家”,是劫世,更是自由战士的神圣使命和复仇女神的道义担当把我们分开了吗?!——永远地分开了吗?!不,姐姐,你推门拦住我那一刻噙泪而柔情的声音——“刚才刘天华的《病中吟》,你是特地为姐姐奏的吗?”——更永生永世缠绵萦紧着我了!《灵耦絮语》中多少细节,正是当年你的娇柔、你的风采、你的词锋!……正是当年我们反叛的爱情时光与瞬间!…….是的,透过以血还血的万古荒诞与真实,姐姐啊,那铁窗血絮中夜夜奔涌的爱的深处,不正是我们的失乐园?!不正是姐姐夜夜向我展读的普罗米修士受难的担当、圣洁的复仇?!——复仇!复仇!!为人类,为浸透林木——浸透木质木纹木筋的世纪华夏之血!也为浩劫夙世之千年孤独!……也许我永永远远读不完它,也许世人永永远远读不懂它——《灵耦絮语》!人类爱与神性血写的极致!一个中华女儿——一个自由精灵奉献夙世旷古的绝唱与悲怀!——</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">比死更强烈的爱情是美丽的!</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">(参见《林昭:灵耦絮语》181节)</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">亲爱的姐姐:张元勋先生这个月12日骤然去世了!而明天,就是钟海源女士第35个忌日——他是我委托祭酒人的挚友,李九莲的战友,无肾无坟无处可祭!恳请你允许我就在你的碑前,把另一瓶一品景芝感恩地献祭於张元勋先生,感念地献祭於钟海源女士!——</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">感恩我永远敬佩的张元勋先生,敬佩与感恩他生死之间探监提篮桥的凛然与至情!</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">感念钟海源女士那反抗的、比死更强烈的爱之美丽!</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">要拍这样一部纪录片,通常我们会想,这困难和风险太大了:如果你知道主人公亲手处决了上千人,手下还有一帮行刑队的朋友;他要跟导演发飙了,会不会把导演杀掉?还有,凶杀总是最大的秘密,谁又会跟你讲怎样杀人?拿摄影机的人,只是比一般人多了台记录设备,又有何种能力侦破凶杀之密?</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">而这些方面对奥本海默竟然不是困难,原因在于,他所面对的凶手在印尼当地是被当做英雄看待的。片头字幕告诉观众:1965年,印尼军方推翻了政府,接着是一场大清洗。所有反对军事独裁的人,其中有失地农民、知识分子、工会成员、华裔都被当做共产党遭到清洗。不到一年时间,有超过一百万的“共产分子”被杀害。字幕这样陈述了导演意图:</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '楷体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">当年的杀戮者毫无忏悔之意,而且乐于吹嘘。为了理解何以至此,</span><span style="font-family: '楷体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">我们请这些刽子手按照自己的意愿重现当年的杀人场景。这部电影记录了他们的表演过程,并见证这起屠杀事件至今依然残留的影响。</span><span style="font-family: '楷体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">作为个人行为的屠杀,无论在哪种文化信仰的社会都是重罪。但我们都知道,由国家施行并且支持的杀戮,就可能不被追究。但同样的困境在于,这样的历史罪恶,当局讳莫如深。在印尼,大屠杀之后四十多年,冤情没有公开。受害人家庭心有余悸,国家对他们不道歉,不赔偿。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">奥本海默接触到人们的恐惧在</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">2003年,当时他作为一个电影项目的协调人之一,与印尼苏门答腊独立种植园工会合作,完成了一部71分钟的纪录片《全球化录像》(</span><a href="http://www.closeupfilmcentre.com/search_results/keyword/the+globalisation+tapes"><span class="15" style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">The Globalisation Tapes</span></a><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">)。这部影片是一个</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">NGO<span style="font-family: 宋体;">(</span><span style="font-family: Arial;">IUF</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">)的教育项目,目的在于动员全世界的工人参与到对全球化过程的控制。在这个过程中,奥本海默接触到印尼种植园工人的生活环境,也了解到工会的历史。很多人说道,他们的父辈、亲人,曾经在大屠杀中遇害。</span></span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">果不其然,在印尼的每个村庄都有驻军,他们威胁、阻挠受害人接受采访。奥本海默的合作者对他说,你要是打算放弃和回国,那先去找那些杀人的吧;也许他们会告诉你我们的亲人是怎么被害的。</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">这样,奥本海默走向了另一个人群。他才发现,这些人太乐意讲述杀人故事了,他们喜气洋洋,大吹大擂,甚至不在乎自己的孙儿孙女在场。对这种不可思议的情形,奥本海默说:“我好像回到了德国,在屠杀犹太人的浩劫发生四十年后,却发现纳粹依然掌权”。</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">(有关访谈详见沃纳·</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">赫尔措格</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">、</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #333333; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">埃罗尔·莫里斯</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #333333; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">与约书亚</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #333333; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">·奥本海默与网友的交流)</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"> </span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1ypzrg/we_are_werner_herzog_errol_morris_and_joshua/</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: #231f20; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">在影片中我们看到,那些控制游民的官僚权贵把游民捧得很高,称他们为“自由人”(free man ),有自由意志的人。这为黑社会性质的游民团伙注入了积极正面的人生意义,从而让他们在干脏活时士气高扬;更不必说他们之间还有彼此豢养的人脉背景。那位曾经被安瓦尔收养而后高升的北苏门答腊总督就说:帮派就是自由人,即便他们的行为有错也无妨。只要我们知道怎么利用这帮人,他们就会静候差遣。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">安瓦尔自己也认同这个定义,而这个自由意志,在他的解释中更近于为所欲为。在电影院门前他说:我们就是些烂仔,为了挣钱什么都干。共产党人禁美国片,我们没钱挣了。军方征募行刑者,所以一拍即合。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '楷体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">主编:当时有上百像安瓦尔这样的人,他只是其中一员。</span><span style="font-family: '楷体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">那位记者是装傻还是真不知道呢?这个问题跟审判纳粹战犯艾希曼的情形有类似之处。艾希曼认为自己没有杀人动机,他只是执行</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">元首的命令,这是符合法律要求的事情。哲学家汉娜·阿伦特由此提炼了一个理论概念“平庸的恶”,即杀人者并非恶魔或天性邪恶,仅仅是停止思考,放弃良心判断,就足以让杀人机器运作。尽管你可以说自己只是齿轮和螺丝钉,但是,把人降低为工具的辩护是无效的。因为事实上人都有判断能力,这种思考和判断的能力让良知成为可能。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">奥本海默说,他不关心故事情节,引导他思考影片的是一种观念,一个隐喻。在这个片子里,他要探讨的是<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">impunity, </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">即免罪。这原本不必是来自英美国家的奥本海默的问题,而是在所有缺乏民主的社会里,人们面临的普遍疑问:杀人之罪竟然不受惩罚,何来社会公正!</span></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">奥本海默没有把这些行刑者看做恶魔,如果说他们是恶魔的话,那么魔性与生俱来,它不能改变,也就不成其为认识和分析对象;分析也没有意义。作为一个艺术家,奥本海默做的是艺术家的事:他把他们看做人、同类;如此,杀人者如何与自己相处,他们如何与这个社会相处,尤其是,他们如何与自己的过去相处,才成为一个问题。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">有关过去,被害者没有录像录音,杀人者也同样毁尸灭迹;影片没有可能调用历史影像来呈现。惟一一段影像资料我根据卡洛琳·库佩的文章判断,是来自</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">Pengkhianatan G30S/PKI</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">(youtubu 上有这部片子)。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">影</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">片</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">的导演是Arifin C. Noer,由苏哈托政府资助八亿印尼盾 (约合四十多万人民币)完成。影片再现了基于官方历史记载的1965年军事政变。在印尼看这部片子是国民教育的基本要求,每年九三零纪念日小学生都要去看这部电影。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></h1>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">(</span><span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; color: #222222; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: 0pt;">Caroline Cooper: The Act of Seeing </span><span class="16" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; color: #222222; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: 0pt;">The Act of Killing</span><span class="16" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; color: #222222; font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: 0pt;"> 见</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">http://www.guernicamag.com/daily/caroline-cooper-the-act-of-seeing-th</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">e-act-of-killing/</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">)</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;"><o:p></o:p></span></h1>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">奥本海默创造了另一个呈现的方法,即让这些杀人者通过再现场景来讲故事。他采用了反纪实的形式。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><br /></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"> 假如不是把杀人者看作属人的同类,也许,其他的导演不会重视安瓦尔的个性的幻想特点,奥本海默正好从这里找到了突破口。安瓦尔热爱电影,熟悉电影类型;崇拜那些黑帮片、西部片中的明星,并且有超强的表演欲。这里有一个悖论,安瓦尔说:电影里的画面,并不是真实的。而我们要拍摄的,是真实的我们。我们有独特的生活方式,我们要讲述我们青春时代的故事,悖论在于:任何电影、包括纪录片,都只能建构真实,而不能替代真实本身。那个失去的真实,怎么捕捉?</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">奥本海默依照安瓦尔的讲述,将过去的场景充分地视觉化和剧场化了。这一般来说,不是历史纪录片常用的方法。就此而言,《杀戮演绎》像故事片,或者可以说,它是一部关于过去如何被体验的纪录片。在纪实方法的采访中,主要人物的讲述常常是事件的证词;它是单一意义导向的,其中有分明的爱憎态度。而在情境再现的方法里,杀手呈现的过去,与他们当下的状态混为一体。这个状态,加上风格化的扮装,常常有一石二鸟的效果。它既是过去的再现,也混合了对这个再现的观察、分析、批评,以及各种复调意义上的对话。安瓦尔是演员、导演,有时还是操摄影机的技师,他同时是观众、批评家,是与在场者进行讨论的历史人物,还是将自我分离为行为者、思考者,以及将分裂的自我引向统一的协调人。由于这种方式,安瓦尔内心的层次和被压抑的状态浮现出来。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">奥本海默采用了浓墨重彩的视觉语言,来建构杀手回忆中的场景;而与此同时,他敏锐地把握了安瓦尔内心的裂缝,并且在这种缝隙里建立了现实与梦魇的多重对比。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">当安瓦尔设想自己像西部牛仔那样纵横驰骋时,我们看到了他头戴宽边草帽的牛仔形象。当他叙说夜不安眠时,场景进入到蓝色的黎明。在审讯室里切下头颅一段,用了安瓦尔头颅的模具。在安瓦尔不满意的场景里,我们看到了片场、重拍开机以及画面内的表演。出入于片内片外、写实与象征、回忆与建构这样几重叙事空间,我们看到了两种情形:</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">在相当一部分场景中,真实和想象、工作人员和主角的分界也变得模糊。这是奥本海默的另一种忠实,忠实于记录的本相,不那么遵循必然性的规则。受到安瓦尔表演的激发,一位在场者讲到他的华裔养父被杀的情形;他是笑着讲的,语气里甚至依然有几分怯懦。接下来由他扮演被审讯的共产党嫌犯,在即将被处死时,他的眼泪鼻涕流了满脸。受害人流露的真实恐惧,让安瓦尔转入沉思。一场看似偶发的对话形成具有揭示意义的线索。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">奥本海默说到,他完全不希望人们以为片子在传递杀人者的狂想。拍摄这些人在市场敲诈华裔老板的情形时,他都会在关机后将刚才被勒索的钱依数还给老板。按照惯例,纪录片导演一般不会将与被采访者的不同意见剪入成片,以免打破观众对所谓客观性的期待;或者将导演的立场强加给观众。但显然,奥本海默从一开始就没有避讳他的主观立场。而与此同时,他保持了良好的控制力,即将人物之间、他与被采访者<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">/</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">被拍摄者之间的差异保持着,从而传递出社会认识的不同脉络。</span></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">前面已经说到,屠杀并且回避后果,由此造成社会影响是多方面的:这里有族群撕裂的政治创伤;有对无数家庭欠下的命债。更令社会丧失道德准则,政治腐败持续蔓延。但一般我们很少有机会观察的是,犯下杀人重罪的刽子手,他们的内心真的如其外表那样大言不惭吗?</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">与阿迪的心安理得不同,安瓦尔带着有所不同的心理状态进入电影。也许阿迪的死顶其实也仅仅是意识层面的事,是他的一张人格面具。安瓦尔与阿迪一起钓鱼,他谈起自己的失眠,泄露了他内心的状态。他常常从噩梦中惊醒,母亲听到他梦魇中的声音,让他睡前做祷告,而且要洗脚。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在莎士比亚的悲剧《麦克白》中,麦克白杀人之后被幻象抓住,他听到各种声音在喊:“麦克白已经杀死了睡眠”,“麦克白再也得不到睡眠”。而在《杀戮演绎》中,安瓦尔尽管表面上什么都不在乎,但他无法控制自己的噩梦。杀人时麻木不仁的魂灵在梦中受到折磨,他无法忘怀的是,一个被他砍下的头颅上眼睛还睁着。他将自己的失眠归之于没有去抚平死者的眼睛。而母亲的话,从象征层面理解,更像一种反讽:他怎么可能洗净沾满受害人鲜血的手脚!</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">奥本海默作为艺术家的智慧在于,他非常重视这些潜意识的浮现,并且用电影的方式让这些不可见的精神活动充分地视觉化。奥本海默在英国学电影的指导老师是塞尔维亚导演杜尚·马卡维耶夫,他毕业于心理系;其影片代表作《赖西:有机体的秘密》( <span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">W.R. - Misterije organizm</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">)尽情耍弄性与政治的禁忌,精彩绝伦;是我的最爱之一。有人问过奥本海默:你从导师那里学到了什么?他回答说,就像一个梦,从梦中醒来只有一些碎片的记忆,无法述说。但从《杀戮演绎》中可以看到,奥本海默对梦境的重视和理解能力,与马卡维耶夫这类反乌托邦的实验艺术家确有师承关系。如果不是这些突破性的表现方法,我们不可能看到一场大屠杀对杀手自己的精神摧毁。</span></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">可以说,《杀戮演绎》的基本结构有四个层面。一个是他们开演的过程,第二个是他们所演绎的历史画面;第三个是安瓦尔的梦境,第四个是观看这些已经拍摄电影画面,安瓦尔的反应、评价或者再表演。而在这其中,安瓦尔梦是多重镜像的集合。在那里,杀戮行为演变为魔幻、地狱和报应的画面;安瓦尔的自我分裂为不同角色。他惯于压抑的恐惧在这里释放出来。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在日常生活中,安瓦尔可以控制和掩饰他的真实行为。他说,处决犯人后,他通常会露天放音乐,边放边跳;还会喝点小酒,抽几口大麻。此外,他在穿衣服的时候解释说,他从来不穿白裤子。他还会洒香水,不是为了散发而是要压住其他的气味。这些细节表明,安瓦尔拒绝可识别的外部标记,杀人的勾当并非像他表白那么正大光明;他需要麻木和自欺来维持自我。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但他的梦却暴露了罪行的折磨,那不能瞑目的眼睛从此追踪了他半生。影片中重现了这一幕,安瓦尔像默剧演员一样在丛林里把那人踢到,自己随之扑倒在地(他同时扮演了杀手和牺牲者两个角色)。接下来进入到他的梦:由大胖子杀手男扮女装的妖精用刀子割他的头,围观者高喊助兴;场面血腥而怪异。接下来安瓦尔被埋葬,妖精继续折磨他,他一样样举起血淋淋的道具——安瓦尔的内脏、阴茎吞入嘴里,焚尸的火焰升腾。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">郝建教授在评论《杀戮演绎》时谈到,</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">这部电影对中国今天思考文革,思考罪责和忏悔有极大意义。如今中国有一股忏悔文革的潮流,红卫兵当年的暴行,其行为模式与安瓦尔完全是同构匹配的:一个是要反共挽救国家,一个是“防止资本主义复辟”,都使用了极端的暴力</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">但《杀戮表演》所展示的忏悔并非生硬直接的,电影没有逼迫施暴者忏悔,而是睿智地帮助他们自己走上一条反观过去和感同身受的路径。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">(郝建:《杀戮者:自豪与忏悔》见腾讯</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">·大家</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">http://dajia.qq.com/blog/424583083002368</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">)</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">我接着这个话题来说,我觉得,安瓦尔这类行凶者与当年的红卫兵略有不同,他并非真的有对那种乌托邦社会的信仰。如果可以把鼓动红卫兵杀人看做共产革命暴力话语的恶果;那么安瓦尔杀人则与革新社会的信仰无关。它更近于纯粹的权力快感,为了利益和享受权力而施暴。举个简单例子,红卫兵为了理想去杀人,却并非为金钱所能左右。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">但对于杀人者来说,都有一个和人性</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">/</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">良心的相处关系。在中国,忏悔文革的做法引起争议。有人认为是反思的开端;另有人认为纯属作秀。这些争议反映出,社会缺乏共识,集体迷狂、领袖崇拜与个人责任亦是一团浑水。如果没有彻底清算文革罪恶,没有追究统治者罪责之前;个人的忏悔怎能带来与受害者的和解?归根结底,在一个人既是施害者亦是受害者的情况下,忏悔充其量只能表白个体的反省,从而对历史上与现实中矛盾的自我予以包容。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">这与《朗读者》这部作品中表现的情形也不一样,当德国对纳粹历史的批判已经形成制度性的要求,包括在宪法中规定不允许以任何形式宣传纳粹思想;这个时候,个人的政治责任就要受到清算。尽管就个人处境而言,有时审判不可能公正到精确的程度。那位服刑的女看守汉娜,在监禁</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">18<span style="font-family: 宋体;">年后得到赦免,却在刑满释放之日,选择结束了自己的生命。她在狱中学会了读写,她曾经的情人一直给她寄朗读作品的录音带。但是历史已经拉开距离,爱情不可能复活,没有可以完成的和解,包括与自我的和解。</span></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">汉娜在临出狱前说到她的一种状态,和安瓦尔相似的是,过去不由自主地重返她的生活。她说:“在这座监狱里面,他们跟我呆在一起的时间很多。他们每天夜里都来,也不管我要不要他们来。”换言之,死者与生者同在,鬼魂萦绕,无法摆脱。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">奥本海默在谈到安瓦尔的时候,他一直强调要把对方当做人而不是妖魔。我觉得他在影片中揭示了这个人的过去和当下、恶魔和属人的矛盾心理;确切地说是罪恶的心理代价、精神后果。就算全社会的罪恶清算还没有开始,杀人狂真的可以免受惩罚吗?如果安瓦尔就是恶魔,我们也不用讨论恶的心理结构了。然而我们的确看到,安瓦尔的人性也有很多丰满的层面:他会让孙儿对受伤的鸭子说道歉,他会在杀戮片场前沉思。他在扮演被审讯的共产党人时,也能表现出死亡的痛苦。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">但是,如果我们把这些以及结尾处安瓦尔的呕吐当做忏悔,并且以为这部影片因此表现出忏悔是可能的,那违背了奥本海默的本意。在接受采访以及在网络上和网友交流时,奥本海默一再强调,这部影片是反煽情,反宣泄的,它也不是讲疗伤痊愈的过程。结尾的呕吐并不是意味着安瓦尔可以就此告别过去,恰恰相反,过去已经成了他当下生活的一部分。我理解,这是说杀人之罪没有调和余地,因此也不可能通过忏悔来化解。奥本海默这样说,这个罪在安瓦尔的生活中划开一道深渊,不能跨越;他只能与这个深渊生活在一起。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">在场景布置上,奥本海默用了超现实的绿野仙踪来呈现安瓦尔的幻想:山涧瀑布前,美女从鱼形建筑物中鱼贯而出,美人鱼般翩翩起舞。安瓦尔接受了天堂的洗礼,两位被他杀害的人给他授勋,感谢他送他们上天堂。安瓦尔期待这样的升华和洗礼,但观众知道,这违反生活逻辑。明知不可能,但导演用了华美的配乐、具有装饰感的旅游风光片的手法来拍摄这一场戏。安瓦尔对彼岸的企盼以及历史罪行被表现得难以调和,因此,他言之凿凿的杀人逻辑实际上被瓦解了。而这个逻辑也是官方意识形态至今维持的话语:我们杀了他们,他们应该感激。画面上,徒手的安瓦尔如释重负:如果没有命债,如果真能如此洗脱,那该多好啊!</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">安瓦尔观看自己被杀头的恐怖画面时,他竟叫出自己的孙儿孙女。初看这一幕,我很不解是出于何种心理。后来我看到奥本海默的解释,他说到安瓦尔完全清楚,在瀑布前得到救赎是自欺;但他需要这么做。他的心理症结就在,他必须回到让自己夜不安眠的痛苦根源。而在潜意识里,他宁愿这一切都没有发生。所以他对孙儿孙女说,那不过是电影。我想,从这里,也可以解释他为什么又不在乎在摄影机前重现杀人了。奥本海默说,一旦觉得这是电影,小孩们也不感兴趣了。安瓦尔安慰自己,同时对导演坦陈:现在我对我的受害人感同身受了。他希望导演能够接受这一点,即在虚构场景和他试图通过表演来驯服的现实恐怖之间没有分别;但是导演不认同。他说你在表演,而他们都死了。奥本海默指出,安瓦尔必须面对的事实是,他永远也逃不出他所制造的恐怖,他也不可能逃出面对过去的恐怖。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">如果说恶有其心理结构的话,那就正是这种意识上的认可与潜意识的逃离这种分裂状态。也许在开拍之初,安瓦尔乐于有一个机会担纲电影,他要表达的行为和观点,和当局的态度并无二致。但在那些具体场景中,他向观众呈现了他不能控制的潜意识。奥本海默在五年之后约安瓦尔重回行刑的屋顶,安瓦尔不可控制的呕吐成了这部影片的结尾。我们作为观众,得要感谢安瓦尔。他允许导演和他一起在重演罪恶的和幻想救赎的场景穿梭,并且将理想自我与现实自我无法调和的矛盾摆在了所有观众面前。这种从根本上无法解决的困难,正是人类的一种特殊处境;如果你犯下了毁灭群体生命的滔天大罪,这罪感最终会如古希腊长满蛇发的复仇女神一样对你穷追不已。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">回过头来再说,难道忏悔不比不忏悔好吗?难道安瓦尔的呕吐不比阿迪那种硬着脖子去海牙的叫嚣好吗?事实上,像阿迪这样的人很多,就算在法庭,很多在几十年后被追捕归案的纳粹战犯也是不认罪的。在影片中,安瓦尔从来没有对他参与的罪行做过反省;他表演的,只是角色的需要。但在深入体验角色的痛苦时,他的内心的缝隙变得可见。的确,最后在屋顶上,他呕吐了。那是不自主的爆发,对非人行为的生理抗拒。这离理性的反思恐怕还远,将之称为忏悔可能过度解释了这个时刻。而最重要的是,如果一个人亲自杀死了上千人,谁能赦免其罪?这种噩梦和呕吐就是他毕生必须承受的体验。奥本海默说:</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">最后就是这样,这些体制的创始人、国家之父,他们的内心已被彻底破坏。或者像安瓦尔那样,内心分裂;或者像阿迪,完全空洞。你可能要面对这样的选择:等你老了,你会希望像他们这样吗?</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《杀戮演绎》<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">2012</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">11</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">7</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">日首先在丹麦发行,</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">2013</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年底进入奥斯卡最佳纪录长片奖的初选名单,从名单中的</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">16</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">部作品中,《杀戮演绎》进入被提名的五部作品。</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">2013</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">6</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">18-19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">日,纽约的人权监察电影节放映了这部作品,</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">7</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">19</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">日开始在美国发行。</span></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">2014<span style="font-family: 宋体;">年</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">3</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">月</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">1</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">日,就在第</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">86</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">届奥斯卡颁奖典礼的前一日,美国一家影视刊物</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">TMZ</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">的网站上登出了印尼大使馆的抗议之声:《杀戮演绎》是对我们国家形象的羞辱,它该死!大使馆方面认为,这部纪录片</span></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">对印尼是弊大于利,因为它把这个国家描绘为落后、暴力和没有法治的地方。来自大使馆爆料人说,使馆方面反对这个片子的根本原因在于这一季的评奖,因为电影节将这部影片置于中心位置,而他们只想这部片子消失不见。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">(</span><span style="background: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt; letter-spacing: 0pt;">Indonesian Embassy -- 'Act of Killing' Documentary Is Humiliating for Our Country ... IT NEEDS TO DIE</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"> </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/03/indonesia-embassy-act-of-killing-documentary/)</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但奥本海默认为,印尼官方的愤怒正是影片成功的另一标志。在他看来,印尼政府特别是军方曾将经将影片中表现的恐怖强加给成千上万的人们,而这个恐怖必须被曝光。他说:电影每得一个奖,人权就得到又一次彰显。他的批评也指向了曾经支持印尼军政府的美国政府,他提到,由美国情报部门向印尼军政府提供了有关工会成员、共产党员、作家和艺术家的名单,因而对大屠杀同样负有责任。特别是当时的美国媒体,他们还用“亚洲的曙光”这样的标题在头版头条对之进行长篇报道。所有的杀手都知道,当时西方政府是支持他们的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"> 而在印尼,很多独立的放映活动在持续进行中。卡洛琳·库佩(</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">Caroline Cooper</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">),一位曾经在雅加达的联合国机构工作的作者,她在文章中探讨了这部纪录片在印尼的传播。她说,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">苏哈托政府在1998年倒台,印尼开始实行民主政治;言论自由的空间也有扩展。但关于1965-1966的大屠杀,政府依然没有采取调查行动。这其中一个原因是,现总统</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">苏西洛·班邦·尤多约诺(Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono)</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">苏哈托时代的三星将军,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">2004年当选印尼独立以来的第六任总统,他的岳父就是当年发起屠杀的责任人之一</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">;</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">所以他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">显然</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不太可能做</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">什么</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">而对这种历史遗忘症,已经开始出现一些书籍、文章和影片,其中《杀戮演绎》这部纪录片,产生了最强烈的影响。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在影片片尾的制作人员名录里,一位印尼的合作导演和整个参与工作的印尼团队,全部都是匿名的。匿名导演在给卡洛琳·库佩的电子邮件中说:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">如果暴露身份,我们就不知道后果如何。未知的风险比现实的危险更令人担忧。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">卡洛琳·库佩的文章说,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">当地的作家、学者、记者和活跃分子的网络一直努力控制风险,他们在确保安全的情况下分享复制的碟片,组织私下的放映活动。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">出席</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">观看的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">人</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">从几个到上百。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在影片发行的第二个月即</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">2012年12月10日国际人权日,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">印尼有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">三十个城市</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">里开展了</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">五十场独立放映。奥本海默评价说:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到2013年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">4月,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">印尼的九十三个城市</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">大约有三百场私下放映,可能有五万观众</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">看了这部影片</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">尽管对有两亿多人口的印尼来说,这个数字还非常小,但它的冲击力却是巨大的。影片是一个证言,也是一个控告。奥本海默把对待这部影片的态度看做试金石,看政府是否愿意结束不问责并保障表达自由。他说,一旦影片被禁就让片子上网,并且鼓励盗版。现在,在这部片子的官方网站上,如果你发一封电子邮件,就可以得到看片链接,还可以下载导演访谈以及剧照和影评。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">奥本海默希望重返印尼,但他知道这不可能。他说</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">还没有</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">发生</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">针对</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">印尼</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">合作团队以及放映组织者的暴力行动。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">而他本人在推特上收</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">到威胁信息:幸好导演不是印尼永久居民,否则影片标题就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">该是</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">《夺命演绎》(The Act of Being Killed)了。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">去年</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">三月,奥本海默到香港,其后在海牙为很多印尼观众放映片子,他也表达了对自身安全的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">忧虑</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">库佩说,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">电影中露面的杀手也</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">很</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">警觉,影片</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">的消息传到印尼,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">一家深受欢迎的周刊也做了报道</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,这</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">让他们恼火。安瓦尔召开新闻发布会说他</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">上当受骗</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,他当初被告知拍摄的影片</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">不是目前在国际电影节发布的那样。匿名的副导演说:我们知道事情不是这样的,但是我们理解他必须采取这个姿态,为安全</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">起见</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">。在几个星期记者采访的热潮过后,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">安瓦尔</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">回复正常生活。他和朋友们依然关系很好</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">但他拒绝任何录音录像采访。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">匿名导演强调,就</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">国家必须</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">正视历史的</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">策</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">略来说,不应该聚焦于那些干脏活的黑社会</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">团伙:</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">“如果有关于1965-66大规模暴力的法庭听证,那么应该聚焦于那些发布命令制定决策的人,那些依然在散布恐惧的人。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">”但在印尼,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">“司法部长已经说了,没有证据证明那次大规模杀戮是侵犯人权。”</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">对此,奥本海默说,</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">也许官方调查还遥遥无期,但对话正在暗中启动,这表明《杀戮演绎》所冒的风险是值得的。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在该片的官方网站上,进一步的行动是要求印尼总统“向1965道歉”运动 (Say Sorry for ’65 campaign)。发起人说到,这是迈向公正的第一步,人们已经等得太久了。他们呼吁观众:你可以采取行动,也可以支持那些受害人,打破沉默。如果你能够做一件事,那就给本地议员写信,让他们知道你对印尼种族灭绝事件的感受并要求。让我们向政府施压,要求他们面对过去,做出努力去平复大屠杀的创伤。如果你可以做两件事,那么上网并在“向1965道歉”的请愿信上签名。印尼总统非常在乎他的国际形象,来自印尼外部的支持对于说服他必须行动非常重要。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">就讨论纪录片推动社会改变来说,《杀戮演绎》为中国的社会运动纪录片、独立纪录运动提供了重要的艺术经验。它表明,政治主题、人权导向与艺术创新不仅不矛盾,而且,它就是一个新方向。那些尖锐的社会问题,那些从未被说出的声音,才是最值得表现的;这是纪录片突破的第一步。而在亚洲极权国家转向民主的进程里,将新的视觉语言应用于政治题材的纪录片,我们多么需要向奥本海默学习。</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">写下这行字,觉得可悲又可笑;仿佛有人死了,我们在开追悼会一样。但是我的心情,和真正去追悼朋友,也没有什么两样。追悼会上,我们哭上一次,此后也要放下。朋友去了天堂,尽可追思,但我们也深切地知道,再没有什么尘世的力量能够加害于他们。但是活人被关进牢房,如王全平律师曾经体会到的,连放屁也要练出不响不臭的本事;还要忍受各种难以想象的邪恶,深更半夜叫起来,回答一些莫名其妙的问题。回到牢房又不能安睡,满怀对亲人的歉疚。这不是比活见鬼更加糟糕的一种经历吗?</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">前一向时,我怀念丁家喜、赵常青、许志永诸君。家喜是湖北人,去年春节前还来过我家,他留下一个有民国风的茶叶盒子,当时他说,这是我曾经喝过的最好的茶叶。我说谢谢你啊,现在不用警察请喝茶自己请自己喝茶了。在家喜失去自由后,我还常常在他坐过的桌子前发怔。他曾经在这里用电脑,联系朋友,在</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">skype <span style="font-family: 宋体;">上跟这个那个大声说话;现在他会想念推特、</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">skype </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">、</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">google +</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">的日子吗?家喜被抓后,我听说他的妻子带着两个女儿离开了中国,现在自由的土地上。我深为之感到庆幸。但话说回来,现在连律师存钱也不让,那谁给家喜送钱呢?没有钱,这位北航毕业、爱打网球高尔夫球的大律师,连个方便面可能都买不起啊。</span></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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图一 第一次认识丁家喜律师时所拍</div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">丁家喜等新公民案诸君被捕,无疑是一场公共灾难。但是,现在救人的人太少,救也救不过来,捞也捞不上来。正如四川好人谭作人一样,谁都知道他没罪,那又如何,照样在牢里扛了五年。去年雅安地震,直到得知谭作人安好,没有被砸死在雅安牢房里,我才大叫一声:“老天有眼!”把心放回肚子里。</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">我与这些朋友们,在各种场合见过面;有过或浅或深的交流。说浅,有时也就是一面之交;说深,即是人之相知,一定要用语言吗?就说胡石根老师,一个为自由民主的理想和信念扛过十六年牢狱之灾的人,见面除了鞠躬致敬,还用废话什么呢?</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">在我的镜头里,胡老师怡然自在。而我后来看到他刚出狱时的照片,满头银丝,那是摧残的真相。</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">我第一次见赵常青,可能就是在公民王荔蕻的庭审时。我在外面拍摄公民围观,这家伙背对警察游荡便衣肃立的警戒线,喜气洋洋地对着摄像机说:我结婚了,我给王大姐送喜糖来了。<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">2012</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年夏天,那场北京的大雨之后;他送我到肖国珍律师的家里,我对肖律师做了个采访;常青在旁边的沙发上倒头便睡。那时,他刚有了儿子小象,我估计他在蜗居带小婴儿,一定累得够呛。</span></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">我和常青也曾一起赴艾未未的饭局,记得当时常青好像是谈了一通祖国统一的意见。艾未未貌似迷惘地诘问他;常青更执著地阐释。他们俩在不同的话语和行为的轨道,但可爱之处则有目共睹。常青的个性深深打上了上个世纪八十年代理想主义的精神,这样一种纯正的气质在人世间颇为稀疏。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">浦志强在代理广东奥美定美容伤害案时来过广州,他之风度翩翩,已经红遍媒体。只是一上餐桌,帅哥就露出胆怯。然后就解释说有糖尿病,每天还要打针;印象中他好像是随身带了注射器。<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">2011</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年谭作人二审,我到成都,也跟拍了浦律师夏霖律师的工作,这些影像留在纪录片《国家的敌人》、《花儿为什么这样红》里。那时他开始玩摄像机,大个子拿个小东西像在琢磨玩具。但前不久,我就看到他的大作了。我认为,有关湖南永州双规案的采访、记录,是这个时代非常卓越的纪录片。虽然,在某种意义上,好像这个纪录片不过就是电影术语中的大头说(</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">talking head),</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">但是,它作为独一无二的视听证言,已经具有充分的纪录片的价值。</span></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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谭作人案二审前夜 浦志强在成都朋友的饭局上领唱“毕业歌”<br />
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">我读过徐友渔老师的文章,几年前,为找一位失踪朋友,我对他做过一次采访。友渔住在京郊小区的一座塔楼里,家里很静。我们在俯瞰楼群的书房里交谈,后来友渔的妻子回来;她是医疗专家,每天要坐班。我们到附近吃了四川火锅,然后友渔帮我背着相机包,一直送我到地铁口。友渔的学问我就不评价了,众所周知。但印象中,友渔真是个好男人——不是每个人都会帮人背机器到地铁检票口还目送的好不好。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">郝建老师是我同行,我们都研究电影。去年我们还在电影学院可爱的咖啡厅里聊天,我也坐过他的车,我还很羡慕他有个挺精准的小摄像机。郝建的一位亲人,在<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">25</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年前的那个血腥之夜遇难。如果我记得不错,好像就是他的表弟。</span></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">现在我还想起来,在谭作人庭审完的那个傍晚,我还帮浦律师买过一个烤红薯。因为他患病,不能多吃,就很容易饿。这次他在看守所,少吃多餐?想都别想。</span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">还有小老鼠,我的校友刘荻;<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">2009</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">年那天,我们吃完饭,和刘霞相拥而别。我们三人一起回崔卫平的家。我眼很钝,总是不信我们被人跟踪。结果在转</span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">13</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">号线时的确有两个表情模糊的人跟着上车。兜兜转转,这俩闷人就一直跟着我们再到卫平家的小区。在那儿,有我从广州带给卫平的草泥马。早上卫平起得很早,她独自晨舞健身,然后在宽大的桌前阅读写作。</span></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';">我的这些朋友们,都是最好的中国人;可爱、善良、有美学上的魅力。但这样的人一个接一个地被关押,当局至少达到了这样的一个小效果:即像我这样非常惦念和尊敬他们的人,内心充满了压抑和悲伤。当早上起来坐在电脑前,连<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">google + </span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">也打不开,悲惨的世界观油然而生。这是怎样的世界,不值得留恋和生存。但我们依然被迫活着,由于各种牵挂和责任。</span></span><span style="font-family: '宋体'; font-size: 12.0000pt; mso-spacerun: 'yes';"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">要有用你照</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一点用都没有</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这不瞎照吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你在这儿照不是瞎照是挑衅</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有本事上里面照去</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">挑衅我们</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">再挑衅跟你急</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">艾:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">四个路口都不让走了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张雪忠律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案赵常青</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">辩护人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我介入新公民运动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">首先是接受了赵常青家属的委托</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是经过许志永的介绍</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">原来我并不认识赵常青</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但我认识许志永</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们是朋友</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2013年上半年北京一下抓到人比较多</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">需要数量比较多的律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当时许志永就跟我沟通</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">包括其他一些朋友</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">希望我能够介入进来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">庭审现场</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">便衣警察驱赶记者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">走 上那边</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不让留人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">快</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">跟你好好说了不听</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不懂啊</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">外媒记者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">现场播报:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">……</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他成为非常知名的律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家现在可以看到</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们离法院已经有四百米远了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们一直还在赶我们</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天大概要审一天</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他有可能被判定最高刑为五年</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是秘密开庭的案子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">只有他的直系亲属被允许出席</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大约两周内我们可以知道结果</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案赵常青</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">辩护人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民运动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永跟我介绍 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">包括我接触当事人的了解</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们应该还是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">想在现有法律框架下</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是以合乎现行法律的方式</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来行使 来伸张 来争取</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">宪法规定的各项公民权利 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">包括自由的表达权</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">和对政府和政策的建议权</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">插入资料:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">三聚氰胺奶粉事件曝光两周年</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永与受害</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">儿童的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长见面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">结石宝宝的母亲:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一个研究报告都没有</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果真的说得了结石百分之百癌变</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那绝对不是说打官司就能打上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">卫生部这两年有关三聚氰胺的各种研究</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">没有任何公布</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那么只有两个结果</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">要么就是说这个事已经完了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">或者说这个结果不能让大家知道</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永 法学博士</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们想一方面是援助这些受害的孩子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">另一方面我们还希望以司法的渠道</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来援助这些孩子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是把它纳入到司法的渠道里去</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这样又能解决问题</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">又能以司法的方式解决问题</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">实际上对法治有贡献</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所以我们一开始</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">推动赔偿方案的出台</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">同时我们更重要的工作是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到最高法院起诉</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">前后最多时代理了四百多个受害孩子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但起诉了三次也都没有受理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">后来又分头到地方起诉</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">还是很少受理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">极个别受理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">受理了有的没有开庭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有的开庭了也没有判决</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">艾:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你觉得主要的障碍是什么</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得这个社会把很多事情</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">以一种惯性 政治化的处理方式</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">非法治化的处理方式</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都是些长官意志</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们想怎么处理就怎么处理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们内部跟一些企业一勾兑 协调</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">然后就做出一个方案</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">丝毫没有考虑到</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这些受害者他们的状况</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而且他们也没有法治意识</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也不愿意把这个事件纳入法治的轨道</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">最后我们这一群法律人的努力</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就非常艰难</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">郭于华</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">清华大学社会学系教授</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">其实见到许志永跟他有过接触</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是公平教育</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有几个家长</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">想跟学者一块谈一谈</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在京随迁子女享受公平教育的问题</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那会儿知道的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">后来就是公</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">盟</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有一次年会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永和滕彪都不能去</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是王功权代表他们做的年度报告</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也是谈公平教育的问题</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2011年1月2日下午</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公盟年会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">王功权</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">企业家 公平教育支持者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">王功权念许志永执笔的公盟年度报告:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们的2010</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们是谁</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们是对中国民主法治</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公平正义怀有美好愿望</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">并且肩负责任的公民</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">无论经历多少挫折</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们都会一如既往地相信未来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">以理性建设性的方式</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">推动中国进步</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">回首2010</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们怀着感恩的心</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2010年1月</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们开始教育平等的努力</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">帮助那些</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">父母在北京工作生活</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">却没有北京户口的孩子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在北京正常读书参加高考</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是一个为期三年的计划</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">第一阶段是实现小学升初中的平等</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2010年6月之前</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">小学毕业的孩子可以参加电脑派位</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公盟负责人许志永</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> 滕彪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因被警察软禁</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">无法到会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2011年</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">5月21日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">关爱随迁子女就地高考主题研讨会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">教育公平志愿者:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到目前为止</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">中国已有两三亿城市新移民</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">仅在北京</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2001年没有北京户口的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">北京常住居民是七百多万人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在城市化的大背景下</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们中大部分人都不会再回到原籍</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">已经是输入地的新居民</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们在工作地居住 纳税</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">然而我们的孩子却无法享受平等的受教育权</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2011年的2月18号</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">刚过完元宵节</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我女儿就坐着1503次列车</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">离开了北京</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我一路哭着回来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">牵挂女儿 将独自一人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在一个陌生的地方</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">陌生的学校 备战高考</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个时候 我只有鼓励我的宝贝</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不要害怕</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">尽快找到着力点 进入状态</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一旦你知道往哪里努力的时候</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就可以看到希望了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">出生不可以选择</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是命运可以通过努力去改善</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们应该团结起来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">去签名 去呼吁</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">用合法的手段</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">迫使政府</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">取消高考 中考的户籍限制</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而北京市是北京人的政府回答</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">更让我感觉到心寒</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">年年岁岁多少孩子回老家留守</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而父母却在这里任劳任怨地纳税</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">难道这就叫同税同权吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张千帆 北京大学法学院教授</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">首先一个大家这些活动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">完全是合宪合法的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家在一起组织起来签名</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">表达自己的意愿</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这受宪法第35条保护的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为我们的宪法</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">尽管因为宪法没有进入诉讼</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所以大家可能往往感觉不到宪法的存在</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但宪法是存在的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">宪法第35条保护大家的言论自由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">甚至出版自由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">哪天你们把这个呼吁书出版</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这也是大家的自由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家的集会自由 结社自由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都是受保护的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">叶匡</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">政</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> 诗人 学者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">马丁</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">·</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">路德金在蒙德里亚的会议上说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们并没有错</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们的所作所为并没有错</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果我们错了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那是这个国家的宪法错了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果我们错了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那全世界的人都错了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果我们错了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那从孔子到柏拉图都错了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是我改的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果我们错了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公正就是一个谎言</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">爱就是欺骗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们要在北京工作学习</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">直到平等和正义降临到这里</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">魏汝久 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">只有不断地一波一波又一波</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">才能够迫使执政者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为政府是为人民服务的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来改变他的公共政策</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">陈丹青 艺术家</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是玩韧性</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">反正不要走散</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一千次不行</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一千零一次大家还到场</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">只能是这样</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">北京市第一中级人民法院</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">庭审现场外</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">画外音:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">(起诉书)</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">经依法审查查明</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一、2012年7月至2013年2月间</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">被告人许志永利用“教育平权”话题</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">单独或者伙同王功权</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">丁家喜(均另案处理)等人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">组织策划煽动他人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">实施了聚众扰乱公共场所秩序的行为</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">1、2012年7月5日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在被告人许志永的组织煽动下</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">百余名人到国家教育部门前聚集</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">并张打横幅</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">肆意喧闹</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">且抗拒阻碍公安民警执法</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">造成该处秩序严重混乱</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">插入:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2012年7月5日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在京家长为随迁子女的受教育权问题</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">第</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">25次到教育部信访办上访</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">请愿家长</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来京城</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来务工</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来打工</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是我们孩子没有学上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为教育部长袁贵仁在两会期间</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他明确说出要在6月底之前</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">要出台全国高考就地上学的政策</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为我们就是奔着这个</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">已经6月底已经过了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">现在已经是进入7月份了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是政策到现在还不出台</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当然我们这些有孩子在异地上学的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们这些家长都很着急</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们来教育部就是要诉求</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">为什么说政策出台</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到现在不出台</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是我们今天来了以后</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">警车 警察</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">比我们老百姓</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">比我们公民都多</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而且现在把我们一个公民</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">已经抓进去了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到现在一个多钟头了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也不放出来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们现在在喊</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">诉求 让他们放人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是到现在</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一直不放人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长拥向信访办门口:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">(呼口号)</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">放人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">放人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">放人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张庆方律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案许志永的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们找到这些证据是什么</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都是官方的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">教育部的保安</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">找了几个</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">说是他们这些人来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">以后</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">辱骂我们的领导</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">堵车堵门</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">导致我们不能正常地办公</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">骂得不堪入耳</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">严重损害了我们领导</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们部长的形象</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">和</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">教育部的形象</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他又拿不出来证据</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都是自己这么说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你说他怎么骂了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">没有</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">看到</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你说它怎么乱了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在教育部门口 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">人家</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长们</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都是受过高等教育的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这些人的素质都非常高</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这些三四十岁的家长</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">7·5 请愿现场</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">出来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长代表出来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天代表我们家长</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">去教育部信访办</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">安静</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家都到齐了再说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">马上还得来几个人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都进来吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长代表:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天我们五位</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">代表我们家长</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">跟教育部进行</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">第25次信访</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天递交了我们家长的诉求书</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天接待我们的是号称</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">教育部信访办副处长的一位</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">叫张勇的同志</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在接待过程中我们要求他</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">出示工作证</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他说没带</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是第一点</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">第二点就是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他在接访我们的时候</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">拿着门卫的一个登记本</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">用了一个背面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来写我们的记录</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我当时提出严重的一个抗议</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我认为 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">作为一个国家教育的最高级别的部门</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">没有一个正规的上访流程</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">连一个正规的回复的回执都没有</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">拿了一张登记表的后面来糊弄我们</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们认为这完全是敷衍</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">完全是对我们家长权利的一种挑衅</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我认为这是对教育公平的一种践踏</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">郭于华</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">清华大学社会学系教授:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得其实包括要求公平教育</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">包括新公民运动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都是这个社会当中特别需要的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">特别必要的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为从中国社会大的结构来看</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个结构是有特别大的问题的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">像我们做社会学一直主张这种</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">推进社会进步</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那么用什么方式来推进社会进步</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">其实是要通过公民社会的建设</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家都能够去做一个好的公民</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">为公共事务能够相互帮助</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">能够做一些事情</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这其实就是社会建设的内容</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">陈丹青 艺术家:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是激烈一点好还是温和一点好</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都没有用 我觉得</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">激烈到什么程度</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">第一他不让你游行</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也不让你静坐</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我想如果可以静坐的话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">应该把孩子也带上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">看到小孩他又会怎么办</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但我知道这没有用</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这只会升高矛盾</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们永远是弱者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在警察统治面前</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你温和更没有用</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">根本就不理你</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他堵死了任何一个追求人权的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">合法的途径非法的途径</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">全部给你堵死了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它不是个政府</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我不觉得它是个政府</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">哪有这样做政府的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">郭于华</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">清华大学社会学教授:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那实际上如果我们等待一个社会空间</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">等待一个公民社会 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">现成的 那是没有的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们实际上行动能够在一个</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">没有空间的地方</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">去开辟新的空间</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在没有空隙的地方</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">去打开一个空隙</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在逐渐把它扩大</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果说我们把自己作为一个公民的话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们应该有这样的一个理念</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是 行动是特别重要的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当然表达也是一种行动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们说 他们正在办</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我说 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">怎么能证明你们正在办呢</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不正在给你们办的话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">部长不会说那句话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是他们的答复</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得是非常可笑的一点答复</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案许志永的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们一再地</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也不希望引起主管部门的反感</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为越引起反感越不能解决问题</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是你跟他好声好气地说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也不行 因为他们没有压力</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们只是希望有一定的人员在场</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">能够施加一定的压力</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来达到来达到自己善良的愿望</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">现场的视频很清楚</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们一看</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那明显和乱是没有关系的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当然检察官也讲了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">说并不是因为你的这些口号</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你的这些要求给你定罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而是因为你违法了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你走上街头了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你扰乱了市民的正常生活</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你扰乱了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公共</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">场所</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">秩序</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个东西判断有罪无罪很简单</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是现场视频</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个现场视频我们也会向社会公开</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">现在</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也已经通过一些媒体在公开</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">老百姓看了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家也会很清楚</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">说白了就是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> 是鹿还是马</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它就是鹿 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">官方非得说是马</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那就让他们成为历史的笑料吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">周泽 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案张宝成的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">由于长期以来我们缺乏</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公民责任的观念</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">导致这个社会上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所有人都不对这个社会负责</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不对这个国家负责</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">导致这个社会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">败坏如斯</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可以这样讲</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们这个社会今天</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">比如说腐败丛生</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">比如像社会各种风气的败坏</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都是跟公民普遍缺乏</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对国家的责任有关系</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我想这种责任</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">包括对自己言语的自律</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">包括对社会上各种不公平</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">各种非正义 违法的问题</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">能够积极地去行使</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">做为公民的言论出版的自由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来对这些进行揭露 批评</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对国家机关的违法失职行为</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">积极地行使公民的申诉 控告</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">检举的权利</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">插入:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">教育公平志愿者:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们在座的所有人都是纳税人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们用我们交的钱来养活这帮官员</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">为社会来做服务</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">给出来的服务低于小学的水平</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这句话我一点没有煽动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">实在是太羞耻了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">刚才我们跟这位官员对话的时候</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他自己没有这样的感觉</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他觉得要求他拿这个证件他很委屈</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这就是我们中国政府现状的一个水平</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他也需要教育</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我跟我旁边的保安也在讲</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天我的儿子如果没有获得公平教育的权利</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们将来老了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们有获得其他什么福利的权利吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">通通都没有</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张庆方 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案许志永的辩护人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为中国人吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">骨子里</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">受了多年专制的教育</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家骨子里</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">万一你这么搞搞乱了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有些人会这么认为的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">说这个影响稳定怎么办</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那我们还要不要</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们正常的生活都难了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2012年7月5日家长上访 视频</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">警察:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">各位</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">咱们这样</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">天也这么热</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">咱们打交道也不是一两次了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天这也接谈完了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到此结束</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家伙该回家了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那其实呢中国总不能是这么一种状态</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为这个社会现在太复杂了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也不可能英明到</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他就能够做出</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他都能</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">够</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">找到正确的答案</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">首先第一点</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在这个地方</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不允许的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在这里面有规定</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所以说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">咱们今天</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到此结束</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家伙散了吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那你总得给我们一个答案啊</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">答案</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">说完了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">解决不了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">中国的好多问题</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都是极权产生的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所以极权它是原因</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它不可能是解决问题的一个方法</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这一点 其实我们都能够看得透</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">7·5视频:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我要高考</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案赵常青的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我说寻衅滋事是一些人寻求刺激</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在公共场所无事生非</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">去追逐打闹</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">表达一个正当的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而且没有破坏任何现场的秩序</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">插入:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永 法学博士:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得在维护权利的过程中</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们有时自觉不自觉地</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">会站在自己的甚至自我的一面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">很容易把对方想象成一个坏人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">或者说一个恶人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是 有可能对方</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它的立场</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">比如说它认为</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个社会要稳定</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有的人是假的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是你也不能排除</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有的人是真的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们真的也是站在他们大局的利益考虑</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我的意思是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不能简单地把谁想成坏人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而是说要更多地理解</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">换位思考</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在这个意义上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那一定是更加地温和</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但这并不否认</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们追求公义的坚定的立场</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张庆方 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案许志永的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我早就说过</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它想找许志永犯罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">其实没有找到。</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">最初是2011年11月</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">以“煽动颠覆国家政权”罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">给许志永立的案</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">说明政府对许志永一直深怀敌意</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">认为他是要煽动颠覆国家政权的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对执政党不满</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是经过一年多的秘密侦查</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">什么盯梢这些手段全都用上了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也没有找到这方面的证据</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是风已经放出去了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们还是要抓人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">抓人总要找理由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就找了一个</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当初对</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">丁家喜他们这些人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是用非法集会罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">说你们在西单搞什么条幅</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">要求官员财产公开</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">还</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">搞演讲</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这就叫非法集会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们是以非法集会罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">被</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">抓的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">西单拉条幅照片与演讲</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">演讲人袁冬:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">习近平刚刚上台</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所有政府上台之前必须要公示财产</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是他们已经上台还没有公示财产</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天我们在这儿就是要求</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">习近平以降的所有共产党官吏</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">要公开财产国籍</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为我们的腐败太厉害</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">腐败已经毁灭了我们这个国家和民族</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">社会的正常运转</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张庆方 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案许志永的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">抓了以后又发现用非法集会罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">其实也整不到许志永</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为非法集会是什么</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你说多少人的集会叫非法集会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">非法集会必须有阻碍</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">抗拒工作人员现场执法</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那许志永从来都是说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们不要和警察现场发生冲突</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你套非法集会罪能不能把许志永定罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那确实是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> 至少</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">没有这方面证据</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">最终</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它又改罪名</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">聚众扰乱公共</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">场所</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">秩序罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个罪名一变再变</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也反映了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不是说许志永有罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而是说他们一定要把许志永</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">整成有罪的又去找理由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但最终他找</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这些理由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也是不能成立的。</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2013年3月31日西单视频</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">警察赶来阻止演讲</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">袁冬:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">给他照下来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">没有什么可撤的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不撤</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">侯欣:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">每个人的公民权利</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有你一份子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">知道吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">丁锡奎</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案侯欣的辩护人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是一个基本人权的案件 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">她行使的是公民的表达自由权</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个行使它需要一定的空间和时间</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你不能说他行使这个权利</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就必然引起公共秩序的破坏</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为你在一个屋子里面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你在表达自己的自由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一个人关上门</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那根本实现不了这个表达</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你必须面对一些群体</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一些公众</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在公开的空间里</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">才能表达自己的政治观点</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">袁冬演讲:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公开财产和国籍</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它就是一块试金石</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果你是真正的为人民服务为国家好</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你就跟我率先公开了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果你不公开</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你拒绝 你搪塞</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你给我拖拖拉拉</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">甚至打压我们这些要求公开财产的人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">把我们抓起来 把我们传唤</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你就是一个伪君子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">周泽 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案张宝成的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对公民要求游行示威</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">像他们这样表达一个集体的诉求</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这种行为 如临大敌</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">草木皆兵</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得这是一种很不自信的表现</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而在管理上是缺乏能力的行为</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2013年2月28日画面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">争取教育平权的家长</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到北京市教委信访</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大批警察跟随家长</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张雪忠律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案赵常青的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">检察院跟我讲说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我采纳你的意见</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">确实不构成(犯罪)</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我说那你不要批捕啦</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是检查院还是批捕了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">画面:去往北京市第三看守所的路</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">回到非法集会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们知道明显是不够的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公安局移送到检察院审查起诉</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一直到检察院起诉到法院</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">罪名又变成了聚众扰乱公共场所秩序</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">艾:这个是北京第三看守所</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">赵常青的妻子刘晓冬在第三看守所</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">给赵常青送钱后返程路上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那你等下掉个头</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">掉头我们再走</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">两天前开过赵常青案庭前会议</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">刘晓冬:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们就在第二法庭里面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我在外面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我猜他们是不是在里面开庭前会议</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我就想靠近那个门</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">结果门口有个法警</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他不让我靠近</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他说你去别的地方坐一会儿吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张雪忠 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案赵常青的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对这些新公民的案件</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我能够感受到的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是更加赤裸裸</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">更加没有任何顾忌</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在正常情况下不会剥夺的最基本的权利</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">程序性的权利</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们都会剥夺</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他把“共同犯罪”故意拆成不同的案件</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这完全违反了法律</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而在赵常青案中我作为他的辩护人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我到现在都被法院拒绝</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">复制检察院提交的视频证据</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">辩护律师是有权复制全部的案卷的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我到现在证据都没有完全拿到</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是过两天就要开庭了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这种事情在一般的案件中</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">哪怕是冤案中</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都不太会出现的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是在新公民运动案中就出现了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个也可以理解</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为他们 应该是非常清楚</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们完全是没有任何理由的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">没有任何正当的法律规定</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来把一些根本不构成犯罪的人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来进行司法上的迫害</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它实际上是希望尽快把它做完</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">把这个过程完成</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">尽快把这些人送进监狱</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">让尽可能少的人了解和接触这个事情的真相</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">1月22日许志永庭审 法院外现场</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">警察驱赶记者:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">走了走了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">胡佳 人权活动家:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在1月22日他的第一次开庭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我是被软禁在家里</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">只能从网络上去跟踪 去呼吁</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">还有就是声援</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在网络上发声</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">声援在现场的朋友</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">现场声援者:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是我们民族的良知</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">要在这里被审判</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们拿着我们的钱来镇压我们</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">记者采访:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你知道今天审判谁吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永是谁</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永是这个民族的良知</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">最勇敢的人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到达现场的一位家长:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他要求财产公示</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">要求教育平等</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">声援者:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他这宪法三十五条在哪里啊</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他这是用下位法强奸宪法</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">流氓到家了简直</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">丧尽天良</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">作为一个北京民众</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你对这场审判有什么看法</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我非常愤怒</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">为什么要审判他</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他是法学博士</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">什么事情都清楚</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">把这样的人投入监狱</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你说他们真是丧尽天良</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">据说今天许志永博士他在法庭上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">会以不说话沉默</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它本身就是违法的嘛</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所有程序它都不走</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这完全来自专制命令</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他的律师和他自己不愿意在这上面说一句话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那这个案子还怎么审啊</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张庆方 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案许志永的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是中国的法庭显然不是一个说理的地方</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">特别是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个案子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">中</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们为什么沉默</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为这个案件</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">要把真相讲出来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">必须要让那些了解真相的人到现场</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但了解真相的人或者现在关押着</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不允许他们出庭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">或者说被警方</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">实际控制在家中</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不允许他们靠近法院</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">被警察抓捕的家长获释</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">把我们拦在那儿都冲不过去</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们的人在车上挨打呢</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们赶快去吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们根本都去不了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们都被堵着</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一群人堵着我们</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长太少了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就他们在上头打的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他为啥打你</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你是不是骂他了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他在车上他不让我下去</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这还有一块青紫的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">头上 身上 都是他打的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我就觉得那个拳头</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">咣咣在头上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这要有心脏病就下不来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我就感到当时那个拳头</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">然后直接就给弄到车上了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们都下去那个小伙就开始</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">打我一个人了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他说啥</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们今天人来太少了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们出动了七千警力</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们今天来这点人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">七千</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2014年1月22日下午</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长接受采访:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这不7·5是这样一个过程</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到了我记得好像是7月月初</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">负责稳控家长的警察来电话:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">曹所长打电话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">曹所</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我在外面吃个饭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就在咱们这附近</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">(和谁一起吃饭啊)</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">和我几个朋友</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">(哪几个朋友啊)</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是我们几个家长吃饭在一起</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">刚坐下来还没吃饭呢</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你如果担心的话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那我就不吃了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我就回家也行</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我现在就出来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我听您的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">行 那我就回家吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可以</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那我现在就回家吧曹所</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">听您的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2014年1月22日 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">法院外 许志永案庭审中</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">警察:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不要影响别人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">走</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">好好 走</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张庆方 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案许志永的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">既然真相已经被阻挡在法庭之外</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们在法庭上又用什么样的方式</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">把真相给揭示出来呢</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">既然法庭没有给这个机会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那我们使用沉默的方式</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来抗议</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是我们的一种意见表达</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">声援者:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">欲加之罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">中国有句古话你们懂吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">欲加之罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">什么扰乱社会秩序</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是扰乱了他们贪腐的秩序</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">扰乱了他们的潜规则而已</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">仅此而已</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有法律吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">专制下就没有法律</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那你今天这样说话你害怕吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我生不如死</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我害怕什么呢我害怕</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">连自由都没有</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我是公民吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我在这里长这么大</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我四十多年来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">连一张选票我都没见过</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">家长:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">取消暂住证</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当时我们回北京</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就跟抓贼似的到处</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">没地方去</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不是许老师联系几位博士</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">把收容遣送制度取消了吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天 为我们孩子教育公平</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">居然入罪了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有这样的怪事吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">全世界有吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他扰乱了哪个秩序</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">扰乱了谁的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们就是社会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们就是人民</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">扰乱了哪块秩序了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">周泽 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案张宝成的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在所有这些当事人的起诉书里面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">王功权 丁家喜 张宝成</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">提到了若干人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可是在一个案子里我们只看到了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">有限的一个 或者是两个被告人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那么我们就有一个疑问</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所有的被告人作为同案犯</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都到哪儿去了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">程海 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案丁家喜的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">实际上他们的目的很明显</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">分拆了以后</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为这个聚众扰乱公共秩序</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">它惩治 处罚的只能是首要分子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">本案分拆以后</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">每个人都变成首要分子了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所以它可以处理很多人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2014年1月22日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">法院外 许志永案庭审中</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">记者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">刚刚把叫口号的带走了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不过我们没拍到那人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们就站在路边</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们都来要我们出示证件</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">叫我们走</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们什么都没做 只是站着</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这样子也不行</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们什么地方的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">香港的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">周泽律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案张宝成的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果一个案子是由上级法院审理的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那全案都要由上级法院来审理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那这个案子你为什么要人为分开来审理呢</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那你不是明摆着</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">司法机关不遵守法律和司法解释吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到场访民:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们今天来参加许博士庭审</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">要求国家公开公正审判许博士这个案子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">无罪释放许志永</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永是无罪的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">必须无罪释放</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张雪忠 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案赵常青的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在此之前 2013年之前</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为政治原因而受到迫害的人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">往往是得不到关注</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">处于社会边缘的话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那么以2013年为标志</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们就可以感觉到</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那些被抓起来的人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他得到的声援是非常广泛的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而且是直接能够感受到的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">声援者:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">呼吁教育平权有什么罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">呼吁公开财产有什么罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你不公开的财产</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那么呢 你们一定有了贪污的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不可告人的秘密</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">声援者:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">给他一下抓去这么长时间了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对不对</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他就应该无罪释放他</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你觉得案件的结果会是怎么样</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果现在这种审理方法</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这个审理 应该公开的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">现在的审理 等于是秘密的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">实际上大家 让社会公民不清楚</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这种结果 永远是不公正的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">肯定判决对许志永不利</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你可以告诉我你今天为什么来这里吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我就是想听庭来的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是想参加这个旁听</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为他是公开审理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">为什么不让进去呢</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">四周围 便衣警察 太多了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可以拍照吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">蒙冤警察</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">全国蒙冤警察</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">蒙冤警察是什么意思</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">蒙冤警察是全国受栽赃陷害的警察</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">曾经是警察 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">欧盟代表 杜海飞接受外媒记者采访:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们被允许进入法庭了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不 他们说案件不公开审理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们会做公开声明吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">现在我还不知道</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如你所知</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这一系列案件还在审理中</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">明天 星期五 都有开庭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们认为这都是相互关联的案子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是的 其他外交官还在法院里等候</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">能否告诉我</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">为什么今天外交官们来到这里</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们希望观察案件审理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们关注此案</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">为什么</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为此案关系到表达自由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">欧盟在全世界所有国家倡导表达自由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">正因如此 我们希望了解</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这场案件将会如何审理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们希望观察此案</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们没有进入法庭对吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你们担心此案可能审理不公正是吗</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这的确是人们的关注所在</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但要判决作出我们才能了解更多</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为现在庭审尚未结束</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们还没有证据来做出判断</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们这里有一些人出去</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">看看在外面发生了什么</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为我们听说有一些上访者被关了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">还有一些同事在那边</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们告诉我们</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可能有一个人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">法官或者是法院的人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">来介绍情况</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">梁小军 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案袁小华的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">辛苦了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">警察非常粗暴</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">胡佳 人权活动家:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得许志永和所有新公民案的庭审</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们应该已经看出来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">无论他们怎么采取这种封闭的措施</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">软禁多少人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">还是有公民勇敢地到达现场</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们未必是许志永的支持者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">甚至未必是新公民运动理念的支持者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但他们就是认为</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对政治犯的审判是不公不义的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是必须要去表达反抗的呼声的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当局应该看到每次做这样的事情时</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">付出多么大的代价</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是根本得不偿失的 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">王瑛 企业家:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">人们真正了解新公民运动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我想</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">应该是这次审判</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永被打断的演说词</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">真是非常漂亮</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我是听到了一些</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">甚至是体制内的一些人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">说 他们会一边看一边掉眼泪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他们甚至很意外</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不曾想到</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">被政府严加防范</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">狠狠打击的公民运动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">弄了半天是这么回事</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张庆方 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案许志永的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">其实昨天</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">昨天</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我是很难受的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他不讲话也就罢了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">昨天在法庭上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一讲的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">时候</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我就想到</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这么长时间能够坚持</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">其实他的愿望</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也是大家共同的愿望</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们这个年龄的人共同的愿望</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他想做的事情</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也是我们都想</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">去推动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是大家都没有这种勇气</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">只有他站出来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">尽管</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">想帮他</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是他所承受的压力和痛苦</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">其实</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是没有办法分担的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">昨天在法庭上他那么一讲</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就讲</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他这</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">十年以来的过程</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我控制不住</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">真的控制不住</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当时也流泪了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">法官也说了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张律师你怎么</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不能控制自己的情绪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我说你们可能觉得这不是多大的事</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是对我来讲</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">想到</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">同学感情</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">确实</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">真</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">很</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">难受的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这是非常难受的一件事</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是最终理智还是能够控制自己的感情</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">付出也是值得的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">警察带走访民和梁小军律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我也没干什么</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">晚上 刘晓冬下车</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">志愿者和刘晓冬一起回家</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我回来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">好了 妈妈洗个手</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">看见你回来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">刘晓冬</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">赵常青之妻:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你想妈妈没有</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">小象 想妈妈没有</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">常青还说等开庭那天把他也给带去</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一开始律师说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">怕对孩子不好</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我说那这样的话就征求下常青的意见</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他是昨天去昨天下午见的常青</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">常青说 他太小</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可能他也不知道是干什么的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也不会记得吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他还是看 常青想看他</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案赵常青的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而且它是否能够顺利进行</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我也是有疑问的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果说它的这个庭审</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">或者说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">法庭违反法律太严重了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当事人基本的权利不能得到保障</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我的当事人也许有可能会当庭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">解除对我们两位辩护律师的委托</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">1月23日上午9点</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">赵常青“聚众扰乱公共场所秩序罪”</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在海淀法院第一次开庭审理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">和陪伴赵常青孩子的家庭教会姐妹在地铁站附近相遇:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天是警察的车送你们出来的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是的 是他们的面包车</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">晓冬进去了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是的 晓冬进去了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">法警不让他 不然孩子进去</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而且国保就在后面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">没关系的在后面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">谁是国保来着</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我都没看见</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">在大树后面 躲着</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">画外音——发往微信朋友圈的信息:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们拿着摄像机</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就拍了下孩子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">结果 张雪忠律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可能在地铁本来就很挤</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他也急匆匆地赶着去法庭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所以路上有警察盘查他身份证</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他大概就没理警察</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">警察就不放过他</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就跟上来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们就跟张雪忠喊了一嗓子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也打开了摄像机</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所以就把我们拦住了查身份证</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">耽搁一阵</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那条路根本就进不去了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就这么个状况</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是没有限制我们人身自由</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">陪伴赵常青孩子的教会姐妹:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">今天过小年</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那会儿我是不知道今天过小年</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们是在国保的警车上</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">才知道今天过小年</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">审判赵常青我觉得</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是觉得</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对晓冬来说太残忍了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为中国传统节日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">小年大年都是家人团聚的日子</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是他的孩子就在法庭的外面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不让赵常青跟孩子见一面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我就觉得</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">从人道主义来说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">真是不可取的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">画面:北京第三看守所外面的高墙</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">画外音:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">昨天发布消息</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">王功权承认与许志永一起策划煽动了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">聚众扰乱公共场所秩序的违法犯罪活动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他对自己的行为表示深刻反省</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">北京市第一中级人民法院</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">依法对王功权变更强制措施</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">予以取保候审</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">王瑛 企业家:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">再一个 对同一天</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一审一放</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我觉得是太卑鄙了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">出这种主意的人太卑鄙了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">如果我们的执政党</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们这个政府</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是有一点自信的话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">不会去出这种招来</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这都是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">很让人恶心的招</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案许志永的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我没有看到他说断绝关系这种话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">并且</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> 我刚才跟你说了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我们了解的情况</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">警方要求他声明 划清界限</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">他说划清界限</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">让我太难堪了吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当时有这么一个话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">并且最终它的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这种宣传策略不光达不到自己的目的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">反而是让政府更加丢脸</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因为他有一个基本的道义在里面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也不要侮辱中国人的智商</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大家都明白是怎么回事</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都明白王功权是个什么样的人</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">王瑛</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> 企业家:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对任何一个以此为敌的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一个政权</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"> 一个权力</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">即使是你是敌手</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你是对手</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也大可不必有如此</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">猪一样的表现</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">梁小军 律师:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">(接新公民案当事人侯欣电话)</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公检法一直在劝你认罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但是你爱人特别支持你</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">就是说 说真话 说实话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你坐牢 他送饭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">侯欣画外音:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对 他说你坐牢 我送饭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我说既然我爱人让我说真话</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我嫁给他了 我肯定要听他的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我认为我是无罪的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">所以我估计昨天</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可能他们也是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我倒无所谓我自己反正已经这样了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">能怎么着啊 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我很怕他们将来给我爱人工作单位施加压力</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">程海 律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民案丁家喜的辩护人:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">按照法律</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">包括周泽我都跟他们说</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我讲丁家喜这些人的行为</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是不是大多数人们认为都不是犯罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">都是公民的正当行为 是的吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那就不应该来处置</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">追究他们的刑事责任</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">现在处置了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">按照我国刑法第399条的规定</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">明知没有犯罪事实进行追究的</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是对方犯罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">我就问他 对方犯不犯罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你都不敢认识辩什么护啊</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">什么辩护策略</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">本案的实质就是</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">办案的公权者 犯罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你要不触及这点</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">辩什么护啊</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">王瑛 企业家:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">新公民运动</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">大概十年</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">到今天</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可能是要透过这场审判</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可能也不仅仅是在北京吧</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这案子涉及到一百多人的处理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">可能他们 </span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">是由于这样大规模的集中审判</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">而修成正果</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">片尾画面:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2010年9月9日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">赵常青在法院前声援公民王荔蕻</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">赵常青:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一个宪政的社会</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">那么中国政府</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">中国宪法里面</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">也提到 保障尊重人权</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">依法治国</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">建设社会主义法治国家</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">字幕:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">1月23日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">赵常青“聚众扰乱公共场所秩序罪”</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">律师与当事人不满程序违规</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">与法官展开激辩</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">赵常青当庭解聘律师</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">1月26日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永被判处有期徒刑四年</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">插入画面:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">2008年9月11日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">三聚氰胺奶粉事件曝光</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">公盟创始人许志永等</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">成立律师团</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">帮助了四百多名受害者中</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">多数人通过诉讼或谈判</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">争取到数百万元赔偿</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">但结石宝宝家长赵连海</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">因维权被以“寻衅滋事”罪</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">判刑两年半</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">这段录像是赵连海入狱期间</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">许志永等律师志愿者</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">与赵连海的妻子和孩子在一起</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">喊爸爸回家吃饭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">开机了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一 二</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">赵连海 回家吃饭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">喊爸爸回家吃饭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">看着哪呢</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">看着那儿</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">你喊就喊回来了</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">赵连海的孩子:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">爸爸回家吃饭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">片尾插曲:</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">一生要走多远的路程</span><span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">经过多少年</span><span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">才能走到终点</span><span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">梦想需要多久的时间</span><span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">多少血和泪</span><span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">才能慢慢实现</span><span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">天地间任我</span><span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">高飞</span><span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">1月27日上午</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">丁家喜 李蔚 张宝成 袁冬</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">“聚众扰乱公共场所秩序罪”</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">分别在海淀法院开庭审理</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张宝成认为指控证据</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">与他没有一毛钱关系</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">当庭解除与周泽</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">陈建刚律师的代理关系</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">丁家喜律师程海当庭退庭</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">抗议庭审不公</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">对违法程序提出控告</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">张宝成 李蔚因同样原因</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">解除律师委托</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;">1月29日</span><span style="font-family: 黑体; font-size: 12pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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